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Link not working for me Bert, can you post the details please.
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MaryA wrote:Link not working for me Bert, can you post the details please.



Gertrude Emily Harrison, "England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records, 1700-1916"



Name: Gertrude Emily Harrison
Event Type: Workhouse admission
Event Date: 1911
Event Year Range: 1911
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Digital Folder Number: 004509443
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Looked down all Harrisons in Manchester with relationship Inmate, but nothing showing up that could be the children of Gertrude. Looking like a visit to Manchester archives needed there, to check the Admissions and Discharges for Gertrude and see if any children were with her.
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Bertieone wrote:
MaryA wrote:Link not working for me Bert, can you post the details please.
Gertrude Emily Harrison, "England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records, 1700-1916"
Name: Gertrude Emily Harrison
Event Type: Workhouse admission
Event Date: 1911
Event Year Range: 1911
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Digital Folder Number: 004509443
Fairly sure that isn't the child we seek....
These are all the Gertrude E(mily) Harrisons in the Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911...
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1866 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1868 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1868 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude E - bn 1869 - Manchester
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dickiesam wrote:Re:
Update on missing Harrison children: it appears that there was at least one who survived: Gertrude Emily HARRISON, b 10.6.1907 and who only died (as Gertrude Emily SILVESTER) in 2002!
Birth: HARRISON, Gertrude Emily
Registration district: West Derby
Year of registration: 1907; Sep qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 453

Where did that information come from?
Another kind person with an Ancestry sub found the record of Gertrude snr's death in the Andrews index. The informant was Fred Silvester, son-in-law. Working backwards from this revealed the marriage between Gertrude Emily and Fred Silvester, Gertude Emily's death in 2002 and her birth in 1907. I have sent off for the relevant certificates (principally for the extra info that I hope they will provide) but the likelihood of this not being Gertrude and Edward's daughter is virtually nil, I think!

If you have an Ancestry sub, please could you (very kindly) look and see whether Gertrude Emily left a will?

(I am trying to activate a trial of Ancestry but it's not working at the moment and though I've given them my payment details twice it keeps going around in a loop and asking for them again!)

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Bertieone wrote:
MaryA wrote:Link not working for me Bert, can you post the details please.



Gertrude Emily Harrison, "England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records, 1700-1916"



Name: Gertrude Emily Harrison
Event Type: Workhouse admission
Event Date: 1911
Event Year Range: 1911
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Digital Folder Number: 004509443
Well, there's a thought. Anything's possible - though if that is her, I wonder what she would have been doing all the way over in Manchester (where I am not aware of any family connections). Shame there's no age. Is there any mre detail to be had? - and is it possible to find whether there were any other Harrison sibs admitted at the same time?

Thank you so much for taking an interest, I really appreciate it.

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MaryA wrote:I notice that the St Athanasius records are not available on Ancestry, did you find their on marriage online database or order the certificate?

Have you checked the baptisms for the same church and also any around the Walton Breck Road area on microfiche to see if there are any recorded?
I found their marriage on FindMyPast (tracking back from the fact that Fred Sylvester, son-in-law, was apparently the informant at Gertrude Snr's death) and have now sent off for the cert.

Would St Athanasius be the right church? I never know which one to look in as there are so many in that part of Liverpool and my family seem to have mixed and matched which ones they used! I haven't checked them on microfiche yet - I guess that would involve a trip to Liverpool, which I have done many times previously in the course of this quest, but not recently as it is a full day's outing from here and I also work most days. But I think I feel a trip to Liverpool coming on ...

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dickiesam wrote:
Bertieone wrote:
MaryA wrote:Link not working for me Bert, can you post the details please.
Gertrude Emily Harrison, "England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records, 1700-1916"
Name: Gertrude Emily Harrison
Event Type: Workhouse admission
Event Date: 1911
Event Year Range: 1911
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Digital Folder Number: 004509443
Fairly sure that isn't the child we seek....
These are all the Gertrude E(mily) Harrisons in the Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911...
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1866 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1868 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude Emily - bn 1868 - Manchester
HARRISON, Gertrude E - bn 1869 - Manchester
Hmmm - no, this extra info does make it unlikely, I agree. Sigh!

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lynne99 wrote:The Genealogist will let you search for a family by groups of names. I don't have it, but someone must/. You can get a 14 day free trial - might help
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I have The Genealogist membership (and am happy to reciprocate all this wonderful help, if I can!)

Were you thinking that I could put Gertrude Emily in for 1911 census and see who else appears? Good idea ... will report back ...

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Maria wrote:
lynne99 wrote:The Genealogist will let you search for a family by groups of names. I don't have it, but someone must/. You can get a 14 day free trial - might help
Lynne
I have The Genealogist membership (and am happy to reciprocate all this wonderful help, if I can!)

Were you thinking that I could put Gertrude Emily in for 1911 census and see who else appears? Good idea ... will report back ...
Nah ... found a couple of 'grandchildren' who initially looked promising but far too many discrepancies to claim them ...

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I found the marriage on here http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ which gives the church.
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