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Hi All seeking help on illegitimate birth the child was baptised but not registered. Frank Jennison born 27 March 1891 and baptised 24 June 1891 at St Paul's Toxeth Park. Mother Annie Jane Jennison.
Thanks Hal

Hello Hal,
Possible but unlikely the child Frank Jennison was not registered. He may have been born outside Lancashire.
Is this his mother in 1891?
JENNISON, Alfred - Head - Married - 51 - Coachman Domestic - Hull, Yorkshire.
JENNISON, Annie - Dtr - u/m - 19 - Liverpool, Aigburth.
JENNISON, William - Son - u/m - 17 - Butchers Boy - Liverpool, Aigburth.
JENNISON, Mary - Dtr - 12 - Scholar - Liverpool, Aigburth.
JENNISON, Alice - Dtr - 9 - Scholar - Liverpool, Aigburth.
Address: 69 Handel Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool.
Piece: 2936 - Folio:134 - Page:49.

Have you found the child Frank in 1891 or either he or his mother in 1901?

DS

Hi

I see Alfred was married to Susan, b c 1840 Liverpool... wonder where she is in 1891?

here is marriage for Ann Jane from Lancs OPC

Marriage: 24 Dec 1899 St Bridget, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Walter Howlett Beattie - 23 Clerk Bachelor of 156 Lawrence Rd
Ann Jane Jennison - 25 Spinster of 11 Kellitt Rd
Groom's Father: William Beattie, Deceased, Painter
Bride's Father: Alfred Jennison, Coachman
Witness: Alexander Beattie; Mary Jennison
Married by Banns by: George W. Williams
Register: Marriages 1872 - 1902, Page 179, Entry 358
Source: LDS Film 2147908

1901 census
72 Banner St, Wavertree
RG13; Piece: 3503; Folio: 139; Page: 34
Walter H Beattie 24 clerk
Ann J Beattie 26

Simone x

for the crew



can't find a Cannon Street

Hi Simone,
This is her marriage:
Marriage Sep 1863 - W Derby - 8b - 573: BERNIE, Susan & JENNISON Alfred.

And in 1891 she is with her parents..
BERNIE, Robert - Head - Md - 79 - Tailor - Hull, Yorkshire.
BERNIE, Betsy - Wife - 78 - Bury, Lancs.
JENISON, Susan - Dtr - Md - 51 - Liverpool.
Address: 23 West Derby Street, West Derby, Liverpool.
RG12 - Piece:2987 - Folio:121 - Page:17

In 1901 she is back with spouse Alfred and daughters Mary and Alice at 11 Kellitt Road, Wavertree.

Still haven't found the baby yet! If his birth year is right there are no matching deaths [YoB 1891 +/- 2] up to 1991 apart from these 2..
JENNISON, Frank C - Yorkshire, Scarborough - 1918
JENNISON, Francis - Yorkshire, Scarborough - 1924

So I suspect the child may have been fostered or taken as a 'nurse child', was given the foster family surname and it stuck. Come across that before. Or, because the Jennison name seems to be primarily a Yorkshire name, maybe the child was born up there and a relative took the child as their own.

DS

Love this!! Banner St backed onto where I was born, 72 would have been the right hand side going to Whitman St & was the posh side
Kellitt was a tiny street off Lawrence Rd, the Wellington Rd end.
I was baptised in St Biddies.

Tina
Sorry much help after trawling through Anx

Thanks for suggestions on Frank Jennison. His mother did marry Walter Howlett Beattie & have 4 children to this marriage. Annie Jane Beattie died in 1918. Did a child have to a name before being fostered or adopted.
Hal

Hi Simmo
Could you give us the link to the baptism please? I'm hoping there may be more info??
Frank could have been born Francis, known as Frank by the time of his baptism at which age?
What a puzzle!
And the street name too is unknown.
I can't find Frank anywhere..

Tina

In the census taken 10yrs after 1901
Walter H Beattie clerk 34
Ann Jane 37 wife married 11 yrs
Walter C 9, Harold J 8, Stanley H 3yrs
Sis in law Alice Jannison 29 single
all born Lpool
10 Staplands Rd West Derby.

Tina

hal blackmore wrote:Thanks for suggestions on Frank Jennison. Did a child have to a name before being fostered or adopted.
Hal

The child could be called whatever name a family wanted. Back in the days of 'good neighbours' there were normally a few ways of raising an 'unwanted' child. There was 'official' and unofficial fostering. In the former case a family would receive a small payment to cover the costs. In the latter it would probably be a good-hearted neighbour who would take the child in. Then there was the system of 'nurse-child' very similar to official fostering. Or, the child could be put into an orphanage as a baby and often 'forgotten' about. If the child was born in a convent where the nuns took in pregnant unmarried women, the child would almost certainly have been taken away from the mother and handed over to a family, often middle-class, for a small 'consideration' or donation to the convent funds. Formal adoption did not exist until 1925.

DS

Hi Tina

The baptism is in the Liverpool records on Ancestry... I have tried to look at the family McGuffie who also had a child baptised that same day.. but their address was Canal Street, so Iwas wondering if Ann's address could have been Canal Street but mistakenly heard by vicar There are acouple of baptisms at that time with Canal Street as address. Found the family but couldn't see anything around them to give any weight to that theory Another though I had was Canning Street but these baptisms all seen to be Bootle area....

here's a link to the page

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh59 ... ennion.jpg

Simone x

Re: the missing birth registration. There is a birth entry for Q2 1891 for:

JINISS Frank Liverpool 8b 90

Could this be him ?

I can't see any marriage or deaths for a Frank Jiniss and he doesn't appear on any censuses

Alison

Ooh nice find Alison.. looks very promising

Alison C wrote:Re: the missing birth registration. There is a birth entry for Q2 1891 for:
JINISS Frank Liverpool 8b 90
Could this be him ?
I can't see any marriage or deaths for a Frank Jiniss and he doesn't appear on any censuses
Alison

Good find Alison! I had a job finding it elsewhere though. It was transcribed as Jinies. Have to say it looks like it could be Jinies on the GRO Index despite 2 transcribers on FreeBMD having Jiniss. But like you, I could not find a subsequent M or D for him later.

DS

Great wombating Alison, well done mate!!

Tina

Hi again,

Done a little more digging to see what happened to Frank.

1901 Census shows a Frank Jennies (FMP shows Jennis) aged 10 living in Kirkdale as a boarder.

No sign in later census

FreeBMD shows:
Marriage of Frank Jennis to Annie Abram in Q3 1916 West Derby 8b 1023
Birth of Eileen Jennis (Abram) in Q1 1917.

FamilySearch then shows a death notice for Frank Jennis in NSW in 1954:

JENNIS, Frank - January 18 1954 at his residence 189 Dora Street Hurstville, dearly loved husband of Annie, and dear father of Eileen (Mrs O Buckley), Marie (Mrs R Turner), Frank, Winnie (Mrs R Seabrook) and Daphne (Mrs N Bannon), aged 62 years, at rest.

..so Frank Jennis's age does tie in with Frank Jennison.

The NSW BMD site shows his mother's given name as Annie and his father's given name as Frank (?)


Alison

Great info Alison

The free index on www.findmypast.co.uk shows a F Jennis bn 1892, A Jennis bn 1897 and a AE Jennis born 1917 all going to Australia in 1923.

The index also shows a A Jennis born 1897 going to Australia in 1956 maybe a visit after her husband's death?

The incoming lists on Ancestry show A Jennis bn 24 December 1895 aged 60 arriving in 1956 going to Tilston Road Fazakerley. She was coming for 6 months.

There's a Cannon ROAD in Kensington

The Toxteth Park Cemetery site shows a Samuel Joseph Bowles died at 2 Cannon Street in 1897....still can't find it on a map though !

Hi All I now received Frank Jinnis birth cert and 99% sure it is Frank Jennison born 26 March 1891 , mother Annie Jinnis domestic servant living at 93 Canning St. This is the same address as his baptism. Annie was a servant to David Patterson Physician age 69.
Thanks Alison for digging a bit deeper and finding the Jennis family in Australia.
Hal