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Help for 1889 marriage details...

Posted: 19 Feb 2012 18:20
by dickiesam
Evening all!
Help reqd to find details of a marriage in June qtr 1899....

I think or hope... Elizabeth Fry married Edward Howard [W. Derby - 8b - 605].

Can skp spot the marriage in the Ancestry Liverpool collection, please?

DS

Posted: 19 Feb 2012 18:31
by MaryA
Everton, St Augustine
Image

Sorry it doesn't look as clear as I'd like. Uploaded a better quality image - I hope. The address is 34a Gregson Street, both father's deceased, her's was a car driver. Witnesses are William George Perry and but Clara Mildred Corabe? not sure.

I wonder if the witness's name is meant to be Conalee? perhaps Connolly?

Elizabeth Howard nee Fry

Posted: 19 Feb 2012 20:34
by dickiesam
Hello Mary,
Thank you for posting the cert image. I was thinking this Elizabeth may be the former spouse of Thomas Fry, despite her saying she is a spinster and her age being about 10 years younger.

Both Thomas and Elizabeth dropped off the radar around 1898 and you will have no doubt read the saga of their unfortunate children in another topic. There are no positive signs of them emigrating so I returned to an earlier theory that they had either split up or Thomas had died.

Now I can't find an Elizabeth Fry born about 1874 [=/- 5 years] with a father Thomas in 1881 or 1891. My Elizabeth's father was Thomas Pierce, a mariner, bn in Mostyn, Flintshire. However, Thomas had a sister Elizabeth, bn 1873, but their father's name was John, a car driver, who died in 1877. Fairly sure this is the sister, not the wife.

Thanks again for the piccie.

DS

Edit to add: Just got off the phone with a cousin who is a few years older than me. He has a distant memory of meeting an 'Aunt' Lizzie a couple of times in our g.mother Ada's house. Elizabeth and Ada were sisters. When I mentioned the name Howard it immediately rang bells. So this Elizabeth Fry is the missing Thomas' sister.

Posted: 19 Feb 2012 21:06
by MaryA
Sorry it's the wrong one, just had another look for any marriages or even burials, but no luck, not for either Elizabeth or Thomas.

Posted: 19 Feb 2012 22:50
by dickiesam
MaryA wrote:Sorry it's the wrong one, just had another look for any marriages or even burials, but no luck, not for either Elizabeth or Thomas.
No worries MaryA. I've [you have] just added another wee sprig to a branch and that's not bad at all. That particular Elizabeth had been put on a back-burner a while back and I nevr got back to it. Until now! :)

DS

Posted: 20 Feb 2012 12:00
by MaryA
Yes, every little detail helps build a bigger picture.