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Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,1880
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 03:57
by Redridge2010
I am researching a Annie Rosser Rogers who was a nurse at the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool according to the 1881 English Census and I was trying to find out where I would get her personal record from. She was born in Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales around 1842 and I am trying to find our who her parents were.
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 05:56
by Bertieone
Hi Red and Welcome,
Have you explored this possibility.
Free BMD,
Marriages Mar 1840
EDWARDS John Llanelly 26 661
GOWER Dinah Llanelly 26 661
GRIFFITHS Jane Llanelly 26 661
REES Mary Llanelly 26 661
ROGERS John Llanelly 26 661
ROSSER Margaret Llanelly 26 661
THOMAS Thomas Llanelly 26 661
WILLIAMS Hugh Llanelly 26 661
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 06:04
by Redridge2010
Bert
Thanks and yes i had ordered that but was told that the Rogers did not marry the Rosser. I think the joining of the names is a few generations back.
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 07:32
by Bertieone
Hi Red,
Chances must be favourable this being her brother,
John Rosser Rogers Born abt 1844 Llanelly,
Married, Maria Cundy Artis, 1868, West Derby, 8b 764,
Fathers info on their marriage cert would help,
Census,
1871, RG10, Piece3817, Folio13, Page23,
1881, RG11, P3670, F55, P42,
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 07:42
by Redridge2010
Bert
Yes, have this also and it says father John - However, I have been unable to find birth or baptism records for either. I have found Annie's probate, and I am trying to get a copy of the will, due to her having named a William Rosser and on a 1911 census I found a Annie Rosser with a William Rosser as brother and Annie said that she had been a nurse. Wondered if he had dropped the Rogers. Thanks for all the help. Rhondda
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 08:30
by MaryA
Have you investigated the family "Rosser" in Llanelly in 1851
Aberclydach, Matt House, (sorry if I have spelt it wrong, did my best), Llanelly
John Rosser Head M 62 Maltster
Rebecca Wife M 39
Margaret daur 14 Scholar
Ann daur 10 "
John son 8 "
William son 6 "
Sarah Rebecca daur 4 "
Maria daur 2
Catherine daur 10 months
HO107; Piece: 2490; Folio: 345; Page: 17
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 08:36
by Bertieone
Also 41,
HO107, P1366, Book4,
Did John the father get Rosser Rogers on Marriage cert and what occupation?
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 08:39
by MaryA
Another entry that might be worth investigating, probably not the same family as those in my 1851 above
1861 Fosfach Newydd, Llanelly - this is just a coincidence.
There is a family by name of Rogers living next door to a 76 year old William Rosser and his son William 48, together with grandson William Williams 23 and a grand-daughter Anne Rosser 18.
To address your first query, if there have been any personnel records deposited you will need to enquire with the Liverpool Record Office
http://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/archi ... y-history/ or the NHS Archives, try this site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/webarchive/nhs.htm
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 10:49
by VicMar1
I am searching for similar info myself re Mill Rd Hospital and have had to write and gain permission from the NHS legal representative at the appointed trust.
I would think it doesnt apply here but the personal records ledger is kept 'closed' for 100 years after the LAST ENTRY in it. I would have thought that since 1891 there is a case for believing that to have expired by now but in the event it has not,in the case of personnel files/records of Nursing and auxiliary staff at Brownlow Hill (which I believe was a workhouse) you need to contact the 'Chief Executive,Royal Liverpool Uni & Broadgreen NHS trust,Prescot St,L78XP' and request access (or you may need to pay for their own archivist to search for you)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ ... ou&cid=0#0
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 22 Jul 2013 18:34
by dickiesam
Redridge2010 wrote:I am researching a Annie Rosser Rogers who was a nurse at the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St, Mount Pleasant, Liverpool according to the 1881 English Census and I was trying to find out where I would get her personal record from. She was born in Llanelly, Breconshire, Wales around 1842 and I am trying to find our who her parents were.
Hi,
Wondering about the accuracy of that 1881 census 'place of birth' entry. LLanelly was in the former county of Carmarthenshire, while Brecon was in the county of Brecknockshire.
If the John Rosser Rogers that Bert found was born in Llanelly [Carmarthenshire] abt 1844, there is only one birth in Carmarthenshire that 'almost' fits....
Birth: ROGERS, John
Registration district: Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
Year of registration: 1845; Sep qtr
Volume no: 26; Page no: 516.
Then there's this birth, also registered in Carmarthen...
Birth: ROGERS, Anne
Registration district: Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
Year of registration: 1842; Sep qtr
Volume no: XXVI; Page no: 492
It is possible that the name Rosser was 'adopted' as the result of being in receipt of an inheritance from a Rosser benefactor, perhaps a condition in a Rosser will. I have come across a similar name-addition before as a result of being a beneficiary.
Re: Personal Records of the Royal Infirmary, Brownlow St,188
Posted: 23 Jul 2013 05:24
by Redridge2010
everybody thanks for the help. Will follow up on ideas.Interesting in the fact that the family named there property in Australia Aberclydach.The plot does thicken. Rhondda