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Do any members have a relation in their family called John Joseph Donovan? Born 1882 in West Derby and his parents were Patrick Donovan and Ann Daly. After he went to prison in 1903 he seems to have disappeared.

There is a tree on Ancestry with information about John Joseph Donovan - parents John Donovan & Ann Daly.

Hi Paula,

Is the fathers name a typo?

Baptism


Name:
Joannes Joseph Donovan

Birth Date:
12 Jun 1882
Baptism Date:
18 Jun 1882
Parish:
St Oswald, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:
Joannis Donovan
Mother's name:
Annae Daly

This would appear to be 'John Joseph' in 1901... At the time of the census he was a serving soldier.
RG13 Piece: 851 Folio: 153 Page: 20
Address: Shorncliffe Camp, Cheriton & Sandgate, Kent.
DONOVAN, Jack Inmate u/m 18 1883 Soldier - Old Swan, Lancashire.

Re:

Hi Paula, Is the fathers name a typo?

1891: RG12 Piece: 3000 Folio: 82 Page: 10
Address: 8 Salisbury Street, West Derby.
DONAVAN, John Head 34 1857 General Labourer - Ireland
DONAVAN, Ann Wife 33 1858 - Ireland
DONAVAN, John Joseph Son 8 1883 Scholar - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, Patrick Son 7 1884 Scholar - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, James Son 5 1886 Scholar - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, Thomas Son 7 1884 - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, Mary Dtr 2 1889 - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, Margaret Dtr 1 1890 - West Derby, Lancashire
DONAVAN, Margaret Grandmother Widow 62 1829 - Ireland

Sorry I made a mistake when I put the information in. It John who is the father. John Joseph also had a sister called Margaret who left her husband Georger McKinley and three daughters in 1918 if any one has any information on her after this date I would be grateful.

Hi posters, the 3 girls were Sarah 1912, Annie 1914 McKinley nee Donovan.
Elizabeth M as McNiel nee Donovan june qtr 1918 all West Derby.

Paula wrote:Sorry I made a mistake when I put the information in. It John who is the father. John Joseph also had a sister called Margaret who left her husband Georger McKinley and three daughters in 1918 if any one has any information on her after this date I would be grateful.

If this is the Margaret you are referring to..
[1891] DONAVAN, Margaret Dtr 1 1890 - West Derby, Lancashire
Her exact date of birth would be of assistance in finding what happened to her.

Birth: DONOVAN, Margaret
Registration district: West Derby
Year: 1890; Jun qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 578

Or is this her?
Birth: DENOVAN, Margaret Amelia
Registration district: West Derby
Year: 1889; Dec qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 519

Paula wrote:Do any members have a relation in their family called John Joseph Donovan? Born 1882 in West Derby and his parents were Patrick Donovan and Ann Daly. After he went to prison in 1903 he seems to have disappeared.

Do you have the documentary evidence that he was in prison in 1903 and if so where was he being held? Do you have any knowledge of how he came to be in prison?

Paula wrote:John Joseph had a sister called Margaret who left her husband Georger McKinley and three daughters in 1918 if any one has any information on her after this date I would be grateful.

Hi,
What is the source of the specific year 1918? And can you confirm that this is Margaret's deserted husband?
Death: MCKINLEY, George
Registration district: Liverpool North
Year of registration: 1967; Jun qtr
Age at death: 79
Volume no: 10D; Page no: 325

Thank you for the replies.
Margaret was born 23/03/1890 in West Derby and married George McKinley 7/11/1909. It is just family story that she ran off with a soldier but her daughters confirmed she disappeared when they were children. At one time they lived over a shop in Old Swan.
As for John being in prison, his army papers say he was discharged in 1903 after serving a 3 month sentence given by the civil court. He was signed off as a bad character.