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variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 04 Feb 2017 16:52
by 42lingfield
I have obtained a death cert and beneath the cause of death, 'variola confluent 10? days', it says 'vaccinated 2 ............'. Can anyone tell me what the missing word might be?

The death certification, March 1886, is by Donald ? .......... Master, City Hospital, Park Hill, Toxteth Park. Again can any tell me the missing name please. My Google searches have produced blanks.

Peter

Re: variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 04 Feb 2017 17:05
by MaryA
Are you able to scan or photograph the certificate so that we can see it? Instructions to show a photograph in your post here https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... =16&t=9817

Re: variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 05 Feb 2017 14:29
by 42lingfield
Mary - thanks for note. My computer skills are modest to say the least. My daughter is better at it and we will try again in the light of your info.

Peter

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Posted: 07 Feb 2017 16:04
by 42lingfield
Hopefully the link below will show the extract from the death certificate!

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Peter

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Posted: 07 Feb 2017 17:56
by luxor

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Posted: 07 Feb 2017 19:39
by MaryA
Oh my word. Thank you for the link Luxor

I've tried everything I can think of via both the censuses and directories I have to hand and so far haven't come across him. He was not the master in 1891 as that was Charles Knox Bond and it would seem wasn't in existence in 1881. Jan44 provided some useful information in this post https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... 56#p102632

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Posted: 07 Feb 2017 20:03
by 42lingfield
luxor & maryA - thank for keeping this on the move. Now we know how to include an image in the forum. We will wait to see if anyone can read what it says!

Re: variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 07 Feb 2017 20:32
by luxor

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Posted: 07 Feb 2017 21:00
by daggers
I think the master's name is Scrimgeour.
D

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Posted: 09 Feb 2017 08:07
by MaryA
I certainly wouldn't say you were wrong Daggers, I just hadn't realised it would be a name :lol:

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Posted: 09 Feb 2017 12:18
by daggers
Its not just a Harry Potter name*, but there are more in Scotland (where there is a clan) than in England.
D
* I have not read any of the books or seen the films!

Re: variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 09 Feb 2017 20:59
by 42lingfield
luxor, daggers and MaryA. Thanks for the further info.

daggers - I think Scrimgeour is a good call. We are going to see if we can confirm it.

luxor - Have had a look at the link. Will have a proper read soon.

MaryA Thanks for the link.

Peter

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Posted: 10 Feb 2017 11:15
by daggers
On a closer look with a bigger screen I now think the spelling is ScrYmgeour, a variation of the other.
D

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Posted: 10 Feb 2017 20:46
by 42lingfield
daggers - I will go with the Y. Does your larger screen show more clearly the words after vaccinated, please.

Peter

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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 08:33
by MaryA
vaccinated 2 ?? unrecognisable :oops: Certified by R Robertson M.A or M.D.

If you are researching the name I would also try ScrYmgIour

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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 10:24
by daggers
Sorry but my reading of the words is not better than Mary's, and I have no medical expertise to offer.
D

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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 10:37
by MaryA
MaryA wrote: ScrYmgIour
I realise that my spelling might be ambiguous with the typeface, I'm meaning Scrymgiour as I thought I saw a dot over the i.

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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 17:03
by 42lingfield
Mary & daggers - thanks for the further tit-bits. I think we must now let this matter rest. We have given it a good go and I shall keep pegging away.I much appreciate your endeavours on my behalf,

Peter.

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Posted: 11 Feb 2017 20:31
by Blue70
It could be this St Helens born man who had various administrative jobs. He married Ada Mary Wilson either at the registry office or at a non C of E church in Toxteth in 1887:-

1861

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7B8-WB5

1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBF2-H9S

1881

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-MS1X

1891

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:49DD-12M

1901

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6M-8YF

1911

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1J-X9R


Blue

Re: variola confluent - smallpox

Posted: 11 Feb 2017 21:41
by Blue70
Image

Could it be?:-

Variola Confluent
10 days
Vaccinated 26 weeks...


Blue