Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hi all, though the forum had been a bit quiet of late so thought I would get some help off you good folk and get the grey matter working .

Jane Boardman born Oct 1814 and William Hutton born 1813 got married in 1842 in West Derby, all documented.
1851 census has them living in Newport, Staffs.
William Hutton age 38
Jane Hutton age 38
Sarah Hutton age 4
William Hutton age 3
John 10 months.

After that, it goes quiet. I can't see Jane in another census. No other Ancestry tree has a death for William senior. Having a look through GRO, a William Hutton died June quarter 1852 aged 41 in NEWPORT SALOP & STAFFORDSHIRE Volume 06A Page 509. Age and location from the census tie in. Am I being too presumptuous?

Most Ancestry trees have Jane Boardman dying in 1870. Problem is, they have death records for a Jane Boardman, not Jane Hutton . The Hutton children - other trees have a boy called George, born in 1854. Can't link him to Sarah. There is a George born in West Derby in 1854 but GRO has no mother's name. A copy birth certificate on an Ancestry tree has mother's maiden name of Hutton, not Boardman.

Another tree has a John Holker Hutton, born 2 years before the parents got married, and as he is not on the 1851 census and can find no death record, I'm discounting him as the children don't match with him in the 1861 census with his family, totally different.

The 1861 census has 2 of the children, William and John with Jane's parents, William and Sarah Boardman. John is fine, I have him in my tree married to Ann Gainer, so all good there.

There is a Sarah Hutton in the 1861 census, working as a servant in West Derby. Age adds up, but who knows. There is an Australian passenger list record for a Miss Sarah Hutton in 1863, and in 1865 a Sarah Hutton marrying William Firth in Victoria. I don't have worldwide Ancestry so can't check that yet.

I can't see much for William junior after the 1861 census. I have had a look on GRO for Lancashire deaths, but only after 1866 when age is shown at date of death, but none tally.

Where is Jane Hutton though?

Any thoughts or comments, insults etc gratefully welcomed :-0

It's possible she reverted to her maiden name when she was widowed and, using that name for a good number of years, then the death was registered with it.

If you must go with other trees, then I would ask them for evidence, do any of them have the death certificate to say what made them link the Boardman to the Hutton?

You need to check burials too, if you find the grave who else is buried there?

Have you checked for a Will?

Is this William?
William Taylor Hutton abt 1847 Jul-Aug-Sep 1867 Wolstanton Staffordshire 6b 79

MaryA wrote:It's possible she reverted to her maiden name when she was widowed and, using that name for a good number of years, then the death was registered with it.

If you must go with other trees, then I would ask them for evidence, do any of them have the death certificate to say what made them link the Boardman to the Hutton?

You need to check burials too, if you find the grave who else is buried there?

Have you checked for a Will?

Is this William?
William Taylor Hutton abt 1847 Jul-Aug-Sep 1867 Wolstanton Staffordshire 6b 79

Thanks Mary. I have checked the Probate search website for both Sarah Hutton and Sarah Boardman for a few years after 1870, but no joy yet. I have also looked in the Ancestry catalogues for burials, but again can't seem to see anything around 1870 for either surname.

Not sure about William Taylor Hutton, will have to do a bit more digging. Birth date is about right (March 1848), but GRO has him as just William Hutton.

I need to message a few Ancestry people who have Sarah's death as 1870 and ask for proof. A few sites have birth and marriage, but funnily enough no death certs, which makes me suspicious.

I had a long-running mystery on a lady who had an illegitimate son about 1839 and then appears with him on the 1901 Irish Census. Irish records post-1900 are good and yet I could never find her death. Then, a week ago, just by co-incidence, I spotted a marriage... she had married someone else when they were both about 40, he had died about 1891 and she had reverted to her maiden name at the time of the census. I then found her death registration; the registrar had written her maiden name, but struck it out and replaced it with her married name.

If her husband died young it's possible that your Sarah re-married and had a third name... with the possibility of reverting to her maiden name at any time

Is this William?
William Taylor Hutton abt 1847 Jul-Aug-Sep 1867 Wolstanton Staffordshire 6b 79

FreeBMD has a birth for William Taylor Hutton, Sep 1849, Wolstanton, 17, 272

FreeBSD shows that Newport (place) is included in the registration district shown for the death of William Hutton in 1852 so it looks good to me.

Thanks for all the tips. We can discount William Taylor Hutton, as 'my' William Hutton was born in West Derby in 1848.

1852 is looking good in Newport. William senior was a platelayer, so maybe an accident on the railway caused his demise?

Every family tree that I have looked at has no confirmed death for Jane Boardman/Hutton. It seems someone has seen a death entry for Jane Boardman who was born at roughly the same time, and decided that was good enough, and everyone else has followed suit.

Maybe she did remarry. She is my 1st cousin 3 x removed. Maybe time to move on to someone else. She was one of 13 children. Plenty more to go at