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John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 18 Mar 2017 10:26
by Gwebb1
I am trying to trace the family of John Hughes who married Eliza Stevenson in 1880 in Liverpool.
The marriage record I have (England Marriages 1538-1973, database, FamilySearch) indicates he was born 1846 and was a widow. He married Eliza on 18 April 1880.
The record also gives his father's name as being James Hughes.
I would be interested to identify John's parents and perhaps trace him on the earlier censuses.
i did have a thought about his first marriage: could he be the John Hughes who married Ann Kennar on 10th Sept 1866 at St Nicholas's? The marriage record says he was a 'minor' which fits in with a 1846 d.o.b and there are possible deaths for an Ann Hughes of about the right age in 1874 and 1876.
As always, I welcome your views.
Glen
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 19 Mar 2017 10:01
by retiringtype
Per Lancs BMD the 1880 marriage was at St Peters.
I would suggest that you either view the register page or order a PDF to confirm occupations, residence, witness names.
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 19 Mar 2017 14:58
by MaryA
retiringtype wrote:either view the register page or order a PDF to confirm occupations, residence, witness names.
I agree, all extra detail will be invaluable, however for a Liverpool marriage in a church, hoping to save some cash, I'll try my best to check details of the St Peter one next time I'm there.
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 19 Mar 2017 20:57
by Gwebb1
Thanks both for your advice and your offer of help, Mary.
managed to run off the marriage certificate from Ancestry. This tells me the couple were minors and both gave their address as Bauastre (?) Street. John is described as a porter and his father, James, is described as a labourer.
I have not come across either the address or the names of the witnesses before.
I am struggling to find the family on the 1871 census and nor can I find a marriage certificate for John's second marriage (i.e. to Eliza Stevenson) in 1880 on Ancestry. The transcript I have found is in 'England Marriages 1538-1973' and no image is available.
The GRO ref is Jun 1880 Liverpool 8b 204 and the marriage took place on 18th April 1880. Unfortunately I don't know the church so I guess it would not be feasible for you to do a quick check on that one, Mary.
I'm interested in John Hughes as I am hoping his father, James, may be linked to William Hughes born abt 1791 and I am trying to identify his parents. William was married and died in Tranmere but lived in Liverpool at the time of the 1841 census.
Anything relevant people can see on the censuses etc would be much appreciated.
Regards,
G
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 19 Mar 2017 22:07
by MaryA
retiringtype wrote:Per Lancs BMD the 1880 marriage was at St Peters.
You were advised above that it was St Peters, much of which isn't online.
The street name will be Banastre Street
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co. ... az/M10.htm
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 20 Mar 2017 16:51
by Gwebb1
Now I feel really stupid! Sorry, Retiringtype - Iread your reply without really taking onboard the significance of the St Peter's reference. Trying to reply too quickly before the grandchildren took over the computer again!
So, Mary, if your offer of a quick lookup still stands .......
I've looked at the link re: Banastre St still no obvious links with anywhere that has come up in previous research but it is definitely in the right area. As I've said in previous posts, this is a bit of a 'fishing trip' to see if it can lead me the long way round to William Hughes's birth record abt 1791.
Apologies again for my confusion.
G.
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 21 Mar 2017 20:30
by MaryA
Re: John Hughes born abt 1846
Posted: 21 Mar 2017 21:05
by Gwebb1
You're a star, Mary - thank you.
With those extra details, I should be able to track the Hughes family a little more and I can also probably rule out what I thought was James's first marriage as on that certificate he was a porter and his father was a labourer. Seems a bit unlikely now.
G.