Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Thank you Not sure if you would be able to help but here goes. I was adopted at 2 years iv found all the relatives on my birth mothers side . I was adopted into her side of the family so that part was easy.now I want to know about my dad the thing is its like he dint exists no one knows anything all I have is a copy of his birth certificate and death certificate can anyone help thanks x Thomas howard jones born 4dec 1921 died 16 july 1971 born in Liverpool. Mother Florence formerly Wilson. Father Robert joseph jones . Address on my dad's birth certificate says 91 silverdale avenue w derby Liverpool xx

Hi Susan and welcome,

Living at 91 Silverdale Ave in 1911 was,

Robert Evan Jones, 27, Bn, Wrexham, Joiner,
Mary E Jones, 25, Bn, Wrexham,
Married less than 1 year.
RG14 P22634
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... h=23455346

Marriages at Bala, Wales, December Qtr, 1910, 11b 622,

William O Ellis,
Robert E Jones,
Mary E Jones,
Jane Morris,

1911 census shows William Owen Ellis and Jane Ellis living as a married couple, married less than 1 year.

Its likely the couple at 91 Silverdale Ave are the couple married at Bala.

Robert Joseph Jones possibly related to one of the Jones on the census.

Florence Wilson married Robert J Jones,
Liverpool, 1933,West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended

Hi and welcome to the forum.

I'm glad you managed to login as I tried to reply to your email but it was rejected.

The marriage that Bert has found for you may have taken place in an RC or non Conformist church, or in the Register Office so unless you know for sure where it was, the easiest way might be to order the certificate, which you can do online at www.gro.gov.uk with the following information, it will cost £9.25.

Marriages Sep 1933
Jones Robert J Wilson Florence - W.Derby 8b 1236

Ok thank you will do that tomorrow. Will that help moving forward I'm new to this and haven't a clue what I'm doing

A marriage certificate will give you both grooms and brides name, address and occupation (bride doesn't always have one) father's names and occupations and witnesses that you might find are family members.

Unless you knew more it would be impossible to go further back without having the father's details.

Thank you very much I have ordered a copy of the link you gave me be 15 days . Thanks so much is it OK to come back on here when it arrives thanks

Hi Susan
I was also adopted, but in Australia, I had success with the Ancestry DNA test...it linked me to 3rd cousins & I have since discovered my family tree, links to Liverpool & my convict GG Grandfather.
Wishing you all the best in your quest.
Much cheer Lisa

Susantina wrote:Thank you very much I have ordered a copy of the link you gave me be 15 days . Thanks so much is it OK to come back on here when it arrives thanks

Yes of course, hope we will be able to help you.

Hi there iv now got the marriage cert ill up load if thats ok

Hi am sorry dont know how to upload .
It would seam this is the right jones they were living at 91 silverdale when they married. He was a merchant's seaman. They were married in the preasance of a h.p.holland and a wilson cant make out the first initial.

This is how to show a picture in your message.
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Susan,

If you can't manage the image upload, can you give us the details on the marriage cert,

Where the marriage took place?
Married couples ages?
Their fathers names and occupations?

Thank you bert ... married 22aug 1933
Robert 42 florance 40
Robert was an able seaman merchant service nothing for florance. Address for robert 91 silverdale avenue West derby Liverpool. Address for florance 9 lilian road walton. Roberts father was also called robert joseph jones also a seaman. Florancefather was called thomas wilson cant make out his ocupation.
They were married in the presence of i think its a h.p. holland and wilson.

The family in 1911 living at 7 Lilian Rd, Florence Blake needs looking in to.

Thomas Wilson 50
Sarah Ann Wilson 46
Thomas Wilson 22
Florence Blake 20, Daughter, Married 2 years, 2 children born, 1 still living
Elizabeth Wilson 18
Hannah Wilson 14
Henry Wilson 11
Jessica Wilson 9
Ida Blake 2
All born, Liverpool
RG14 P22396
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... h=21182628

Marriages Jun 1909

BLAKE William W. Derby 8b 947
WILSON Florence W. Derby 8b 947

This one is of interest, child, Thomas Howard Jones, bn 1921

1911,
43 Salisbury Rd Wavertree,

John Edwin Wilson 49
Florence Howard Wilson 17
RG14 P22655

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... h=20652651

The 1909 marriage, Lancs BMD

BLAKE William WILSON Florence Liverpool, Methodist Chapel, Great Homer Street Liverpool

I have been told of my birth brother that we had an aunty called ida