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I found this head stone against a tree in the back of a garden in Aigburth, the house has recently been demolished so wonder if it was found there. 23 Aigburth Road, but I'm delivering to Alexandra drive and can see it from there

Its of a guy called Thomas Coghlan,
Anyone able to find anything out about him and how his grave ended up there?..it would be nice to track down a descendant.

It's hard to get a good look because the grave is inches from the tree.
I'm pretty sure all the houses in this area were built after 1861.


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It's Coglan.

Thomas Coglan died at his house in Queen Anne Street according to newspaper death notices.

I lived in a flat at 23 Aigburth Drive years ago, but don’t recall any gravestone in the garden then!
Could you post the details from the stone as it is hard to read on the angle?
D

It's in Gibson's epitaphs. He was buried at the Necropolis:

Sacred to the memory of Thomas COGLAN who died March 30th 1841 aged
61 years. Richly endowed with all the noblest faculties of the mind, and with
the purest and warmest affections of the heat. He will ever live in the love and
reverence of his affectionate wife, and children, and of all who were
connected with him by the ties of kindred, of friendship or of patriotism,
though by the inscrutable appointment of divine providence. He endured
many years of bodily suffering. His love and indulgence to his family, his
kindness to his dependants as well as his exertions and zeal on behalf of
humanity ever continued unabated, throughout a long career of unmerited
labour in the service of the public during periods of unusual difficulty. His
virtues as a citizen gained him the respect and admiration of his fellow
townsmen. By whom he was twice elected a member of the Municipal Council
of the borough. His bereaved widow has had the mournful consolation of
erecting this monument to his memory

His wife's epitaph:

Sacred to the memory of Martha, relict of Thomas COGLAN of this town, who
departed this life on the 5th of December 1861 aged 69 years. To the
inexpressible grief of her surviving and affectionate daughters. Also in
memory of Henry, youngest son of the above, who died at Rock Ferry
February 8th 1867 aged 38 years

daggers wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2019 16:14

I lived in a flat at 23 Aigburth Drive years ago, but don’t recall any gravestone in the garden then!
Could you post the details from the stone as it is hard to read on the angle?
D

23 aigburth road not drive
The grave reads what retiringtype has found

Wonder how the grave has ended where it is if he was
Buried at the Necropolis?

Sorry, wrong specs.
D

I feel sure that it wouldn't be the grave that has been moved, just the stone. It will be very interesting to know why, but of course we don't really know when either so it might remain a mystery.

I often wondered when Brougham Terrace was a Register Office, just how many brides going over the road to have their photographs taken in Grant Gardens, were aware that there were graves beneath their feet.

I think this gentleman was the Thomas Coglan associated with the Liverpool Floating Bath, 1816. Organised the raising of funds and the building of it.

Apparently the headstones that were removed were taken to Everton Cemetery in about 1910, I can't see this one being taken from Everton.

I can only think an application was made to have it removed to private grounds. I don't know but would think only the deed holder could make such an application? I wonder if a request could be made, by others because of a historical nature.

I'm wondering if 23 Aigburth Rd was once the Conservative Club below, 1911 Directory?

The Conservative Club was at number 19 according to later directories.

retiringtype wrote: ↑

19 Sep 2019 09:33

The Conservative Club was at number 19 according to later directories.

Thank you,

Which suggests the free church was 21 and 23 was across Parkfield Rd, which is unlikely to be in view from Alexandra Dr at present.

I wonder has renumbering taken place? Perhaps Luke could give us a google map view of the demolished property?

I think this must be it. It's a massive site: https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3796031 ... 312!8i6656

Thank you,

That has to be the site of what was the Con club and the Free church, 21 Aigburth Rd is Sunflowers (business)

Now, where's the tree?

According to this map, the Free Church was opposite Rosslyn St and Alwyn St, is the demolition site the rear garden of a house in Alexandra drive?


https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by ... ht=BingHyb

In brief,

Thomas Colgan's daughter, Mary Colgan married Thomas Gorst.

They had a son Herbert Charles Gorst, Bn 1852.

1911 census, Herbert Charles Gorst lived at 42 Parkfield Rd, its garden backs on to the demolition site in Aigburth Rd.

I think you may have found the answer there Bert.

A bit more info on the development site - it's a single site combining a house at 34 Alexandra Drive and land at 23 Aigburth Road.
https://www.keppiemassie.com/commercial ... liverpool/

Problem is now, what's going to happen to the Headstone now, I wonder if the Liverpool Historical circles are aware of its existence.

If it is the Thomas Coglan, Liverpool Floating Bath and I think it is, it must have some historical value and I would like to think it would be looked after.