Cold Case - Next thing to get your teeth into?
Posted: 14 Nov 2009 17:57
I’m encouraged by the latest successes, and especially since Colette is now lost for a new project, to throw in my great grandmother to see what you think. I give the following timeline working backwards as evidence of her date and place of birth, it’s her childhood and parents that I need.
It’s only since the arrival of the 1911 census that I discovered she had moved from Toxteth where she had worked for many years to Birkenhead, apparently lodging, and this directed me to the correct death certificate.
1915, 25th January – Margaret Ann Lunt 69 years, Poplar Road, Oxton, Formerly Domestic Nurse, Widow of Thomas Lunt Carpenter (Journeyman), Informant William R Lunt Son, in attendance.
This would give her birth year as 1845/6. She appears to like to use both names – Margaret Anne, not just Margaret, so I suspect she was given both. She is consistent giving her age through the years also her place of birth as Neston, or more specifically Hinderton which is a small area in Neston.
1911, living in the household of Mrs Elizabeth Wood, 3 Roslin Road, Oxton. She gives her age as 65. She’s had 2 children, 1 still living, her birthplace is given as NESTON, CHESHIRE.
As her son was living in Liverpool, I can only assume that she chose to “retire” to the Wirral but was probably lodging at both of the above addresses.
1901, working for the Rogerson family, living in 20 Princes Road, Toxteth Park, 55 years old, Domestic Cook born NESTON, CHESHIRE. (age transcribed as 35) RG13; Piece: 3437; Folio: 183; Page: 31.
1891, working for the Rogerson family, living in The Priory, Toxteth Park, 45 years old, Lady’s Maid Domestic Servant, born NESTON, CHESHIRE. RG12; Piece: 2940; Folio 26; Page 46
1886, 31st December, Letters of Administration of the Personal Estate of Thomas Richardson Lunt, late of Deysbrook Lane, West Derby in the County of Lancaster, Joiner, deceased who died on the 14th day of July, 1877 granted probate to Margaret Ann Lunt of The Priory, St Michaels, Aigburth.
1886 Her son was entered into the Bluecoat School, sponsored by Mrs Rogerson, her employer, but it is recorded that Margaret A Lunt (maiden name Kent) was supporting her child.
1881, working for the Rogerson family, living in the Priory, Toxteth Park, 36 years old, Domestic Servant Nurse, born HINDERTON, CHESHIRE.
The only time she had a family life was very short.
1875 Married Thomas Richardson Lunt on 1 December 1875, age 30 in St Oswalds Winwick. Her address is given simply as Winwick. Father Thomas Kent (deceased) Blacksmith. My copy certificate does not state that she signed with a cross, so presumably she signed her name. Witnesses John and Betsey Beddoes (I suspect these are church members as they witnessed many marriages).
1876 Birth of son William Richardson Lunt on 9 August 1876
1877 Death of husband on 14 July, 1877
1877 Birth of daughter Mary Ellen on 13 December, 1877
1878 Death of daughter Mary Ellen on 27 September, 1878
1871 working for the Holloway family (Master Mariner born Madeira), living Victoria Park, Wavertree, 25 years old, Domestic Servant born NESTON, CHESHIRE. (transcribed Rent) RG10; Piece: 3851; Folio: 57; Page: 21
1861 working for the Sutherberry family (Ship Builder), living 2 Galton Street, Vauxhall, 16 years old, General Servant – birthplace dittoed Liverpool, Lancashire. RG9; Piece: 2663; Folio: 106; Page: 27
She seems to have worked for well-to-do families. I suspect she was educated and could read and write.
The above are all verified facts, but earlier than this I have only some collected unrelated details.
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1841 census – HINDERTON, Neston, Cheshire – all born in County
Elizabeth Davies 62 Independent
/John Briscoe 75 Lodger Independent
Thomas Kent 38 Labourer
HO107/124/Book 6/Folio: 11/Page: 16/Line: 11
From the Cheshire Parish Register Project
1833 – Marriage on 28th January, 1833 between Thomas Kent and Jane Evans in Neston. Witnesses Edward Gleaves and Deborah Evans. C=Curate? John Husband. Both made their mark X.
1841 – Burial on 8th February 1841 Deborah Evans, Neston, age 3000
1843 – Burial on 6th March, 1843 Thomas Kent, Neston age 4000
1850 – Burial on 4th July 1850 Jane Kent, Neston, age 2700
If the Thomas found in the 1841 census is the one who married Jane Evans and died in 1843 then I don’t believe he would be the father of Margaret who consistently gives her birthdate as 1845/6.
There’s a long time between a marriage date of 1833 and her birth of 1845/6.
The Jane Kent who died in 1850 age 27 must be too young to be the one who married in 1833.
Her birth is not registered in the name of Margaret Ann[e] Kent, especially not in Cheshire – verified by the Wirral Register Office, as well as the GRO indexes.
She was not baptised in Neston, verified by Chester RO. Nor mentioned in the Church Records ie requests for Parish Relief.
There do not appear to be any school records still in existence.
There do not appear to be any Workhouse records in existence for the area.
I'm not rigid about her father being Thomas, especially a blacksmith, she could just as easily have been illegitimate, but she had to have had a mother!
So the questions are – Where was she born? Who were her parents? Where was she in 1851?
It’s only since the arrival of the 1911 census that I discovered she had moved from Toxteth where she had worked for many years to Birkenhead, apparently lodging, and this directed me to the correct death certificate.
1915, 25th January – Margaret Ann Lunt 69 years, Poplar Road, Oxton, Formerly Domestic Nurse, Widow of Thomas Lunt Carpenter (Journeyman), Informant William R Lunt Son, in attendance.
This would give her birth year as 1845/6. She appears to like to use both names – Margaret Anne, not just Margaret, so I suspect she was given both. She is consistent giving her age through the years also her place of birth as Neston, or more specifically Hinderton which is a small area in Neston.
1911, living in the household of Mrs Elizabeth Wood, 3 Roslin Road, Oxton. She gives her age as 65. She’s had 2 children, 1 still living, her birthplace is given as NESTON, CHESHIRE.
As her son was living in Liverpool, I can only assume that she chose to “retire” to the Wirral but was probably lodging at both of the above addresses.
1901, working for the Rogerson family, living in 20 Princes Road, Toxteth Park, 55 years old, Domestic Cook born NESTON, CHESHIRE. (age transcribed as 35) RG13; Piece: 3437; Folio: 183; Page: 31.
1891, working for the Rogerson family, living in The Priory, Toxteth Park, 45 years old, Lady’s Maid Domestic Servant, born NESTON, CHESHIRE. RG12; Piece: 2940; Folio 26; Page 46
1886, 31st December, Letters of Administration of the Personal Estate of Thomas Richardson Lunt, late of Deysbrook Lane, West Derby in the County of Lancaster, Joiner, deceased who died on the 14th day of July, 1877 granted probate to Margaret Ann Lunt of The Priory, St Michaels, Aigburth.
1886 Her son was entered into the Bluecoat School, sponsored by Mrs Rogerson, her employer, but it is recorded that Margaret A Lunt (maiden name Kent) was supporting her child.
1881, working for the Rogerson family, living in the Priory, Toxteth Park, 36 years old, Domestic Servant Nurse, born HINDERTON, CHESHIRE.
The only time she had a family life was very short.
1875 Married Thomas Richardson Lunt on 1 December 1875, age 30 in St Oswalds Winwick. Her address is given simply as Winwick. Father Thomas Kent (deceased) Blacksmith. My copy certificate does not state that she signed with a cross, so presumably she signed her name. Witnesses John and Betsey Beddoes (I suspect these are church members as they witnessed many marriages).
1876 Birth of son William Richardson Lunt on 9 August 1876
1877 Death of husband on 14 July, 1877
1877 Birth of daughter Mary Ellen on 13 December, 1877
1878 Death of daughter Mary Ellen on 27 September, 1878
1871 working for the Holloway family (Master Mariner born Madeira), living Victoria Park, Wavertree, 25 years old, Domestic Servant born NESTON, CHESHIRE. (transcribed Rent) RG10; Piece: 3851; Folio: 57; Page: 21
1861 working for the Sutherberry family (Ship Builder), living 2 Galton Street, Vauxhall, 16 years old, General Servant – birthplace dittoed Liverpool, Lancashire. RG9; Piece: 2663; Folio: 106; Page: 27
She seems to have worked for well-to-do families. I suspect she was educated and could read and write.
The above are all verified facts, but earlier than this I have only some collected unrelated details.
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1841 census – HINDERTON, Neston, Cheshire – all born in County
Elizabeth Davies 62 Independent
/John Briscoe 75 Lodger Independent
Thomas Kent 38 Labourer
HO107/124/Book 6/Folio: 11/Page: 16/Line: 11
From the Cheshire Parish Register Project
1833 – Marriage on 28th January, 1833 between Thomas Kent and Jane Evans in Neston. Witnesses Edward Gleaves and Deborah Evans. C=Curate? John Husband. Both made their mark X.
1841 – Burial on 8th February 1841 Deborah Evans, Neston, age 3000
1843 – Burial on 6th March, 1843 Thomas Kent, Neston age 4000
1850 – Burial on 4th July 1850 Jane Kent, Neston, age 2700
If the Thomas found in the 1841 census is the one who married Jane Evans and died in 1843 then I don’t believe he would be the father of Margaret who consistently gives her birthdate as 1845/6.
There’s a long time between a marriage date of 1833 and her birth of 1845/6.
The Jane Kent who died in 1850 age 27 must be too young to be the one who married in 1833.
Her birth is not registered in the name of Margaret Ann[e] Kent, especially not in Cheshire – verified by the Wirral Register Office, as well as the GRO indexes.
She was not baptised in Neston, verified by Chester RO. Nor mentioned in the Church Records ie requests for Parish Relief.
There do not appear to be any school records still in existence.
There do not appear to be any Workhouse records in existence for the area.
I'm not rigid about her father being Thomas, especially a blacksmith, she could just as easily have been illegitimate, but she had to have had a mother!
So the questions are – Where was she born? Who were her parents? Where was she in 1851?
before I go head first. 
Her mother must have been Margaret. There is a marriage on Lancs bmd for 1837, St Philip, Liverpool. Thomas Kent to Margaret Bartley nee Plumb (must be this way around as Thomas Bartley older than Margaret is grandson)
