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Please can you help my friend?
bn April 1881 Chorlton rego. We have the family in 1881.
1891 census Walter A 10 bn Manchester with his parents.
RG12/3185/39/31.
Family are in 1901, no sign of Wm A.
I've searched for him as Ford/Forte and various first names as Wm etc.
Can't find a death or anything overseas.
Stumped!
Thanks in advance

Hi Tina,
I may have found your man in 1901. But his name is William not Walter?
Check out his occupation. His father Richard is a shipping agent in 1901 and his brother Richard Percy is also a shipping clerk. I think that Annie bn abt 1878 could be Mary A in the earlier censuses.

WATT, Annie - Head - Widow - 35 - 1866 - Manchester, Lancashire
WATT, Ethel - Dtr - 6 - 1895 - Ashton, Lancashire
FORD, Annie - Niece - U/m - 23 - 1878 - Librarian (Free Library) - Manchester, Lancashire
FORD, William - Nephew - U/m - 19 - 1882 - Clerk (Shipping Warehouse) - Manchester, Lancashire
Address: 511 Collyhurst Road, Manchester.
RG13 - Piece: 3756 - Folio: 105 - Page: 22

Haven't worked out the Watt/Ford/Fort link yet though. Working on it! Richard Jones Fort's wife was a Richardson I think...
FORT, Richard Jones
Registration district: Manchester
Year/qtr of registration: 1871 / Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8D; Page no: 616.
Richard Jones Fort married either BARDSLEY, Elizabeth or RICHARDSON, Mary.

Edited to correct birth registration district for Ethel Watt, from Manchester to Ashton.
Births Mar 1895: Watt, Ethel - Ashton - 8d - 533

dickiesam wrote:Richard Jones Fort's wife was a Richardson I think...
FORT, Richard Jones
Registration district: Manchester
Year/qtr of registration: 1871 / Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8D; Page no: 616.
Richard Jones Fort married either BARDSLEY, Elizabeth or RICHARDSON, Mary.

Now that's a puzzle, LancsBMD gives the marriage at Manchester, St. John between Mary Richardson and Richard J Fort or Richard J Jones.

MaryA wrote:

dickiesam wrote:Richard Jones Fort's wife was a Richardson I think...
FORT, Richard Jones
Registration district: Manchester
Year/qtr of registration: 1871 / Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8D; Page no: 616.
Richard Jones Fort married either BARDSLEY, Elizabeth or RICHARDSON, Mary.

Now that's a puzzle, LancsBMD gives the marriage at Manchester, St. John between Mary Richardson and Richard J Fort or Richard J Jones.

I think the transcriber has made an error or thought there was an error in the GRO Index with that forename Jones. This from a FreeBMD search:

Search for:
Marriages, Surname: Jones - First name(s): Richard J
Start date: Jun 1871 - End date: Jun 1871 - County: Lancashire
Sorry, we found no matches.

A similar search on Findmypast also gave zero hits for the entire year. There isn't a 'Lancashire' Richard J Jones in the 1871 GRO Jun qtr Marriage Index.

Thanks very much D.S and Mary for your hard work on this.
I've sent 1901 info to my friend.
Yes she said Richard Jones Fort for deffo married Mary Richardson.
I've found a probate for RJF 12 Clifford St Chorlton upon Medlock
died 14.11.1917 shipper's clerk, left his wife Mary and John Moulden staff clerk
1152 pounds.
His death is 82yrs of age in freembd.

I've found Richard J in the census taken 10yrs after 1901 as FOST.
He's 76 commercial clerk shipping bn Manchester
Mary 69 bn Bramhall Ches
Richard Percy 39 single commercial clerk bn Manchester
Mary Alice at home 32 bn Manc.
A grandee Amy Louise Fort 6yrs bn Manc.
Illigt dghtr of Mary's??

Unless she was baptised as Amy Williamson Forte 26 Jul 1904 St Philip,​ Manchester parents Robert and Mary Elizabeth Forte - or is this muddying too much waters? - from familysearch.

Scrub that, the dates don't match, your Amy Louise's birth was Q1 1905 Chorlton 8c 780 but I don't see any Amy Williamson Forte in the birth indexes.

Amy Louise Fort's marriage is on FamilySearch. The groom's father's name is given but not the bride's father...

Groom's Name: Fred Price
Groom's Birth Date: 1901
Groom's Age: 26
Bride's Name: Amy Louise Fort
Bride's Birth Date: 1905
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date:10 Jul 1927
Marriage Place: Chorlton-Upon-Medlock, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Frederick William Condon Price
Bride's Father's Name:

WATT, Annie - Head - Widow - 35 - 1866 - Manchester, Lancashire
WATT, Ethel - Dtr - 6 - 1895 - Ashton, Lancashire
FORD, Annie - Niece - U/m - 23 - 1878 - Librarian (Free Library) - Manchester, Lancashire
FORD, William - Nephew - U/m - 19 - 1882 - Clerk (Shipping Warehouse) - Manchester, Lancashire
Address: 511 Collyhurst Road, Manchester.
RG13 - Piece: 3756 - Folio: 105 - Page: 22

Unfortunately, I don't think this is our William

FreeBMD has a marriage for Robert Watt to Annie Kennedy Q3 1893 in Manchester (8d, 420). (This is the only marriage of an Ann/Annie to a Watt I can see.)

There is also a marriage for Thomas Ford to Emma Eliza Kennedy in Q1 1877 in Prestwich. In the 1881 census, Thomas and Emma Eliza are living in Manchester with 3 year old Annie.

Alison

Thanks for input Alison.
My friend confirms Amy Louise Fort was illigt and she did marry Fred Price.

Hi Tina,

I have just picked up this thread and I am very interested. I have been researching this Fort family and have lots of information which would help her fill in the gaps. Could you tell me please how your friend is related. I would love to contact her.


regards
semah

Hi and welcome to the forum. Tina is a regular on here and will be along shortly to reply to you.

Hi Semah, welcome aboard. I will reply to your private message.
Thanks