Liverpool & South West Lancashire FHS - Forum

Hi All,
I'm a member of a History Forum and this offer was made by another member.

"I have a suitcase and a large box of paperwork regarding a gentleman. There are birth certificates, personal letters, drawings photographs, all from 1912-1960 and lots more. I acquired these awhile ago. Available for free as long as they're looked after and not separated"

I contacted him and suggested he tried to get the above back into the family or relatives of the family. It wasn't something he thought he was capable of doing, lacking knowhow, etc.

I now have it all in my care, my aim is to see it back to where I think it deserves to be, with the Walker family. Hopefully someone on here or a member of the society are related and have them in their tree.

Hi Bert,
A deserving cause... It would be worth finding living descendants or relatives of this gentleman. I will certainly give it a shot. Would it be in order to post some info such as name and birth date, if he married and to whom, etc? Anything that might be considered 'sensitive' could be PMd.

Hi DS,

For now I'd like to leave the nitty gritty off here, but I realise we might have to go looking to achieve my aim. Will send PM with your starter for ten.

Kelly's Directory 1938

Walker, Clifford secretary (Walker's Dairies Ltd.) 156 Mather Av. Allerton 18. Mossley Hill 879
Walker, Wm managing director (Walker's Dairies Ltd.) 123 Alder rd. West Derby 12. Old Swan 662

WALKER DAIRIES LTD. dairymen and ice cream makers 3,
5, 7, 9, 11 and 13 Laurel road 7. T A "Delicious;"
T N Old Swan 1300 (private branch exchange)

WALKER (LIVERPOOL) LTD. soda fountain and
ice cream machinery manufacturers 5 Laurel
road 7 (T A "Delicious;" T N Old Swan 1300,
private branch exchange)-frigidaire department
and showrooms 333b Prescot road 13



Blue

If it is Walker's Dairies we are looking at they were taken over by Lyons in 1947 having been founded in the 1920s. Googling Walker's dairies gave a hit on the Lyons website.

Are we now looking for descendants of the managing director and company secretary? Or are we barking up the wrong tree?

Hi Hillary,

You're not barking up the wrong tree, thanks to you and Blue for your interest. Thanks to DS, excellent progress is being made.

Clifford may have married Charlotte M Peck in 1927 but it was West Derby Register Office or Registrar attended marriage.

Do we know when and where Clifford and William were born?

Education Officer wrote:Do we know when and where Clifford and William were born?

The Company Sec Clifford Walker is the MDs younger brother. The primary search is for John Geoffrey Walker bn in 1930, the only child of William and Florence Walker [nee McGrady] or his descendants. Failing that any interested family descendent. There is a strong possibility, as Bert recently posted, that we have found him. Watch this space!

From 1910+1:
Henry Walker Head 39 1872 Window Cleaning Proprietor - Lancs, Burnley
Margaret Walker Wife 39 1872 Lancs, Burnley
William Walker Son 18 1893 Clerk to the business - Lancs, Burnley
Clifford Walker Son 10 1901 - Lancs, Burnley
Annie Walker Dtr 9 1902 - Lancs, Burnley
May Walker Dtr 7 1904 - Durham, Sunderland
Walter Walker Son 4 1907 - Durham Sunderland
Margaret Ellen Winterbottom Walker Dtr 3 1908 - Durham Sunderland

Births Dec 1900: Walker Clifford - Burnley 8e 169
Births Mar 1892: Walker William - Burnley 8e 197
Births Mar 1908: Walker Margaret Ellen W - Sunderland 10a 691

Hi All,

If I may, a little update.

I have through DS's detective work, an address and names I will be endeavouring to contact. I can confirm the address and names are correct, not that I ever doubted they would be, I've only just come across them in the bundle of correspondence I have.
I feel these people should be contacted first before I go any further.

Thanks for all your help, I will keep all informed.

Well done! a good piece of detective work.

Unfortunately, John Geoffrey Walker died in 2009 and the telephone number we had for his and his wife's last address no longer is recognised.

There are some private trees on Anc I will get in touch with and investigate in the coming weeks, in the meantime I'm hoping someone on the forum or the society will have a connection to the Walker family.

Hi All,

Whereabouts etc, of Walker descendants from the 1911 census, most welcome.

Bertieone wrote:Hi All,

Whereabouts etc, of Walker descendants from the 1911 census, most welcome.

Census repeated here to save paging up and down...

12 Vine Place, Sunderland, Co Durham.
Henry Walker Head 39 1872 Window Cleaning Proprietor - Lancs, Burnley
Margaret Walker Wife 39 1872 Lancs, Burnley
William Walker Son 18 1893 [see birth below] Clerk to the business - Lancs, Burnley
Clifford Walker Son 10 1901 [see birth below] - Lancs, Burnley
Annie Walker Dtr 9 1902 - Lancs, Burnley
May Walker Dtr 7 1904 - Durham, Sunderland
Walter Walker Son 4 1907 - Durham Sunderland
Margaret Ellen Winterbottom Walker Dtr 3 1908 - Durham Sunderland

Births Dec 1900: Walker Clifford - Burnley 8e 169
Births Mar 1892: Walker William - Burnley 8e 197
Births Mar 1908: Walker Margaret Ellen W - Sunderland 10a 691

Strong possibility the rest of the family stayed up in and around Sunderland..

Possible death: HENRY WALKER
Birth year: 1871
Age: 50
Death year & quarter: 1921, Dec qtr
District: SUNDERLAND, County Durham; Volume 10A; Page 657

Possible marriage:
Marriages Sep 1928: Walker, Margaret E married Middlemiss, William A

Death: MARGARET ELLEN MIDDLEMISS
Birth year: 1906
Death year: 1981, Mar qtr
District: SUNDERLAND, County Durham; Volume 2; Page 1888

Births?
Births Mar 1932: Middlemiss, Margaret J [Walker] Sunderland 10a 1030 Births Sep 1933: Middlemiss, Wilhelmina [Walker] Sunderland 10a 910
Births Mar 1944: MIDDLEMISS, Brenda [Walker] Sunderland 10a 980

Walter Walker, 1907, Sunderland,

There's a couple of hits,1927, Canadian Passengers, mother, Margaret Walker, 5 Laurel Rd Liverpool.
5 Laurel Rd, was Walkers Dairy.

The destination address was,

Land Settlement, Winnipeg. Is this an indication he was emigrating?

Bertieone wrote:Walter Walker, 1907, Sunderland,
There's a couple of hits,1927, Canadian Passengers, mother, Margaret Walker, 5 Laurel Rd Liverpool.
5 Laurel Rd, was Walkers Dairy.

The destination address was Land Settlement, Winnipeg. Is this an indication he was emigrating?

Walter Walker is believed to have emigrated to Canada from the Liverpool address of his brother William Walker, 5 Laurel Road.

Passenger: WALTER WALKER
Age: 20
Birth year: 1907
UK address: 5 Laurel Road, Liverpool.
Occupation: FARMING
Departure date: 6 April 1927
Departure port: LIVERPOOL
Destination port: SAINT JOHN NB, CANADA
Ship name: MONTCLARE

Update.
We know that Walker sons William and Clifford found their way to Liverpool and their brother Walter emigrated to Canada. Their father Henry appears to have died in Sunderland and one of the Walker sisters may have married and died up there. So I am extending the search to the north-east by posting as a guest on the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society site.

However, before I post up there... meanwhile, back at the ranch... following up on Hilary's suggestion...

Clifford may have married Charlotte M Peck in 1927 but it was West Derby Register Office or Registrar attended marriage.

Marriages Dec 1927: Walker, Clifford and Peck, Charlotte M - W.Derby 8b 849
Births Jun 1904: Peck, Charlotte Mabel - W Derby 8b 672

Death: CHARLOTTE MABEL WALKER
Birth: 26 Apr 1904
Death year/qtr: 1988 / Sep
District: BIRKENHEAD; Register number 888; Volume 37; Page 737

Death: CLIFFORD, WALKER
Birth year: 1900
Age: 62
Death year/qtr: 1962 / Dec
District: BIRKENHEAD; Volume 10A; Page 4

Possible births:
Births Mar 1929: Walker, Brian C [Peck] - W.Derby 8b 1104
Births Mar 1935: Walker, William K [Peck] - Liverpool N. 8b 998

Worth a shot at locating local descendants? Who registered the mother's death in 1988?

And if only we could confirm what the boys' middle names are without buying a birth cert...

Hi All,

This has now been concluded and all items have been returned to the family, I'd like to thank all who have contributed. A special thanks to DS, who helped me privately, we have Walker family members who are highly delighted to have all, especially the photographs, retuned to them.

Wonderful, a success story for you!!