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I only have one Irish ancestor. I would like to see his birth record but have found that it will cost me £18.
His name is William A Fletcher b 1862 in Limerick. They have his middle name as Artken should read Aitken.

Can any one help me with the details
Thanks Lynne

Try this information collected together. It also includes a warning at the bottom not to fall into the trap of commercial sites when ordering certificates.

http://forum.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk ... 14&t=13524

Hi,
Since civil registration of BMDs did not begin in Ireland until the September qtr of 1864 the best you can hope for is a parish record, and that would normally be for a baptism. The fee asked by Roots Ireland would probably be for a transcription of the parish register not a copy and in addition you have to subscribe to the site in order to access that transcription. And even a month's sub of £18 is a bit steep.

I suggest waiting until the summer....
Posted by Blue70, Dec 1st 2014:

Blue70 wrote:The National Library of Ireland (NLI) has today announced details of an exciting new digitisation project. The project will see the Library’s entire collection of Roman Catholic parish register microfilms made available online – for free – by summer 2015. A note of caution, records will be searchable by parish only, they won't be indexed or transcribed. Another possible drawback is that with the images being taken from microfilm copies of the original records some of the images may be of poor quality. If the condition of some of the original records has worsened since microfilming, the images may retain some details lost or obscured on the originals.
http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/herit ... -1.2017344
Blue

Good luck!

Just a thought...
If you are trying to find William's parents and you know the name of a sibling to William born after Sep qtr 1864 a photocopy of the Birth Cert from the Irish GRO will cost you about £3.25 by email!

Is this the Fletcher family you are referring to?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... on/991980/
If it is, that summer release of the RC parish records won't be of help since this Fletcher family is Wesleyan Methodist.

However, it could narrow the field considerably. Interesting stuff here...
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/ ... earch.html
and here...
http://www.irishmethodist.org/custom/no ... h/limerick

There are 3 Methodist churches still extant in the county Limerick area. Perhaps a well-worded request about access to records might bear fruit.

Getting warmer....
The 1910+1 England/Wales census puts William in Port Sunlight and working for, I assume, Lever Bros. I went to school with a lad from Wood Street directly opposite Central Road where William lived.
I assume you have his marriage cert with his father's name and occupation?
Marriages Mar 1883: Fletcher, William Aitken and Neale, Jane Mathew - Northwich 8a 320 [at St Pauls, Dane Bridge]

St Pauls, Dane Bridge, Northwich. C of E; demolished in 1908 following subsidence.

Hi Lynne,

As other people have said Birth Registration started in Ireland in 1864 so for an 1862 event you need to look for a baptism, a parish record not a birth certificate. Where did you get the cost of it being £18 from is that the Roots Ireland subscription? Have you seen the Johnston tree on Ancestry? They have William Aitkin Fletcher born on 30 Mar 1862 in Limerick to Alexander Fletcher and Margaret McNair Dougans. Playing with the search on Roots Ireland there is a 1862 record for a William Fletcher son of Alexander and Margaret Fletcher from Limerick City Presbyterian Church. The parents were Scots according to the tree so denomination makes sense as Church of Scotland is Presbyterian. You might be better off contacting the person with that tree rather than getting a transcript of that baptism record.


Blue

Thanks all. Blue 70, that is the correct family. I had searched the free search on roots Ireland and it came up with 1 match. But as you say, £18 is a bit steep. I know his parents, but wondered their address in Limerick. His father Alexander died in Limerick 1866 and is buried in St Munchens. The family then returned to the main land. When I do not know, but as you say in 1871 William Aitken was Vere St Toxteth. He is mis named as William McNair, which was his mother's middle name and also the name of her 2nd "husband" Andrew McNair. All the siblings were called McNair in this census and eldest brother Hugh, b 1854 Glasgow, is down as McNair and a Nephew. I presume it was not mother who gave the details. I cannot find a marriage for Margaret Fletcher nee Dougans and Andrew McNair, which I would expect to be c 1868/9. She is given as widow of Andrew McNair Marine engineer on her death certificate and is buried in Toxteth as Margaret Fletcher McNair. Andrew may have died in 1873 aboard the Elmina, but when checking probate it is granted to his widow Susannah Crawford Allan Hutchinson. I have found their marriage in Scotland 1862 and some children non the same as 1871 census.
Such a mystery.
Thanks again and any other thoughts gratefully received.
Forgot to mention , I have checked the BMD entry
May be 3 quarter 1869, West Derby 8b 643 or 843 tried to send for certificate but they said the wife was someone else.??? an enigma

PPS Joan, owner of Johnson tree and I are in close contact and she does not know of the 2nd marriage either.