Irish marriage anomoly

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Irish marriage anomoly

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Using the brilliant site in our list nli.ie I have a copy of the marriage from the parish register for Robert Parle and Anstasia Lambert on 31 May 1866 and I also have a copy from the marriage register confirming the details (this came from the local office, not the General Register Office, works the same as England)

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But also checking the civil records for Ireland I find the same marriage but registered as being in Quarter 1.

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/c ... &district=

This is not a one off as if I search for the marriage below theirs in the register which is Edward Singleton and Margaret Kehoe on 5th June, 1866, this is also listed as Quarter 1.

Can anybody suggest whether there is there a reason for this error before I get in touch with them as others placing an order may not be issued as their marriage would not be found in the quarter ordered.
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Hi Mary

I tried to find out by doing a search if there was a particular problem with these indexes but I couldn't find any mention of wrong quarters in the indexes being raised anywhere as a query. The quarter for this record does not appear on Ancestry or Family Search, the index record is also on FMP but I can't check to see if they have the quarter or not. This mistake might just be on Irish Genealogy ie. You could use the feedback page to tell them about the mistake:-

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/feedback


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I will do thanks, just wondered if anybody else had come across this problem
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Just a thought. Financial years go April to April. I wonder if at that time they did as well :?:

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I wasn't aware the marriage indexes had a connection with a financial year? Please explain if you know any more about this.
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What me... I know nothing, it was just an idea :D

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It looks like a lot of those indexes have 1 for the quarter so the quarter entry number is of little or no use at all. I have a July marriage record and that is quarter 1 on the indexes. I've just done a search on various names and most come up as being in quarter 1. The 1 must be a default entry but it's misleading information. I think the record should still be found okay though with the other details provided.


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Well I'm not very impressed with the site as I sent feedback via the link you gave and ticked that I should receive a copy of what I sent by email ..... 24 hours later I haven't received this. Perhaps they are a bit inept?
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I asked Claire at Irish Genealogy News and she thinks the misleading indexes relate to the years when the records were not collated into quarters ie the marriages we've been looking at are pre-1878 when they didn't have quarters. I suggested to Claire that Irish Genealogy ie should have either left out the quarter information for those indexes or perhaps entered them as 0 to avoid confusion.

Arrangements as follows as per Claire's Irish Genealogy Toolkit:-

-From 1845-1863, the marriage indexes (which include only non-Catholic marriages) are arranged alphabetically and are hand-written. After this date, the indexes are typed.

-From 1864 to 1877, the indexes are in alphabetical order in one book per year.

From 1878 to 1902, the indexes are arranged alphabetically by quarter (ie four quarters to one volume). Unless you are certain of the date of the event, you need to check all four quarters and bear in mind that a birth, marriage or death that occured in one quarter may not have been registered until the following quarter.

-From 1903, the birth indexes (but not the marriage or death indexes) are in alphabetical order in one book per year. The maiden name of the baby's mother is recorded, too, for the first time. This makes searching for a large family of children much easier.

-In 1922, following the division of the island into Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, the GRO function was split between GRO Dublin and GRONI Belfast.

http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/ ... rrangement


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Thanks Blue, I'm going to add your post to our list of Irish links as it will be more useful to keep there.
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