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I have the following soldier

Royal Field Artillery
Palmer
L/10858
Thomas
Gunner
Liverpool
5th May 1916
Killed

He is recorded on the SDGW as being killed on 5th May 1916.

I can't find him on the CWGC. I have also searched under his number. Can anyone cross check that I have not missed him.

I have not found him on CWGC or via Geoff's search engine, where you can search by any field, name, or number, or date of death.
His medal index card is marked 'dead 5/5/1916' and shows that he earned the trio of war medals, arriving in France on 28/11/15.
What else have you about him?
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Hi Katie!

Could it be listed as

Thomas Balmer
Service No. 10656?

Cheers!
Heli

Ancestry has him listed in the Soldiers Died in the Great War database

Thomas Palmer
born Liverpool
Died 5 May 1916
Death Location France & Flanders
Enlistment Location Liverpool, Lancashire
Rank Gunner
Regiment Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Number 10858
Killed in Action
Theatre of War Western European Theatre

His name appeared in a casualty list I have been transcribing as being killed. I couldn't find him so I always check SDGW and he is recorded on that. I have also checked the CWGC books but they are not easy accessing them on Ancestry.

Thank Heli I'll check that entry out

Heli seems to found him. Probably a bad transcription by CWGC. They usually correct them when pointed out.

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Heli wrote:Hi Katie!

Could it be listed as

Thomas Balmer
Service No. 10656?

Cheers!
Heli

I already have him in my data base

Royal Field Artillery
Balmer
10656
Thomas
Gunner
Liverpool
5th May 1916
Killed
Son of John and Sarah Balmer, of Liverpool.
Date of list publication: 3rd June 1916

Thomas Palmer appears in a list published 31st May 1916

I have checked SDGW for a Thomas Balmer none recorded I think they could be the same soldier need to do a bit more digging on this one I have a newspaper article for Thomas Balmer.

Hi Daggers

His correct name is Thomas Balmer so CWGC have the right details. I have made a error note and listed him in the database I am compiling as being recorded under Palmer on the Medal Cards.

Thanks all. I have some more puzzles if you want to help?

Good result! Post away, we can but try if the rain returns.
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This Soldier appeared in a list dated 31st-Oct-1917. He is recorded as having died. I can find no record of him on CWGC. He does not appear in any corrections as being incorrectly recorded as died?

Cheshire Regiment
Davies
242001
William H
Private
Birkenhead
Died
NO RECORD CWGC
31st-October-1917

The following all appear in a list dated 27th-May-1916 Cant find anything. I want to put these 3 to rest. I do know that Soldiers were incorrectly recorded as being killed and turned up safe and sound or as POW but there is no further mention of these 3.

Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Pegram
16170
Frank
Company-Sergeant-Major
Liverpool
Previously reported missing, now reported missing, believed killed
27th-May-1916

Lancashire Fusiliers
Welding
5417
Samuel
Private
St. Helens
Missing, believed killed
27th-May-1916

Lancashire Fusiliers
Corfield
19296
A
Lance-Corporal
Southport
Missing, believed killed
27th-May-1916

Davies started with number 5437 in Cheshires, then got the number you have, then went to Royal Engineers, Sapper, 447935 in 54 th Railway Depot Company RE. Death date 17.10.1917, buried at Bebington Cem., grave ref D, CofE, 1004.
Found via medal index card, then CWGC.
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Frank Pegram seems to have been alive in 1933 as his Victory and British War Medals were returned for amendment.

Samuel Welding arrived in France on 25/9/15, according to his medal index card. Nothing else found.

Cornfield was a PoW after being reported missing, from 1916-1918. He enlisted on 3/9/14 and was in the 11th Battalion LF. He lived at 9a St Luke's Rd, Southport. I missed his first name and will get it from his papers on Anc.
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ALBERT Corfield: prewar occupation coach painter. Enlisted 3/9/14, captured at Vimy Ridge 26/4/16 and held at Giessen, Germany. Held appointment of acting lance corporal.
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Cheers Daggers.