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Hi all and what a fantastic place!

I am trying to find some information out about my Grandfather, George Frederick Martin. He served in the Kings Liverpool, in what my father thought was the 5th regiment. However, after doing some basic searching and after he told me he served at Warwick Street Barracks, it may be that he served in the 6th regiment. Any help that anyone could give me as to where else I could find out further information would be greatly appreciated. I have two of his shell cases, which he brought home and are my prized possessions. He tapped out pictures on the shells of a soldier on one and a ship on the other, together with some of the places of battles in which he fought (Somme, Ypres..) My father is 90 years of age now and would love to find out some further information about his Dad. Thanks in advance! Lisa

Hi Lisa and welcome,

A little bit more information would help, if you have it please, Army number, 1911 census, date of Birth, etc. etc.

Hi and welcome to the forum. As Bertie says, the more information you can give the better and we look forward to hearing more details. Even if you don't know where he was in the 1911 census, perhaps if you know his parents names we might be able to work things out with that information.

Hi Bert and Mary

Thank you for your replies

His full name was George Frederick Martin, date of birth February 14th 1897. I have searched the 1911 census and found him on there, living in 57 Laxey Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool and aged 14. I searched the marriages and found a George Martin who married a May Martin (my nan) in 1912, but this would only make him 15 when he married so not sure if that is the correct marriage. Unfortunately, I do not have an army number for him as my Dad is unaware of it.

I am just not sure which way to go and so any pointers would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you again, really appreciate your replies

Kind regards

Lisa

Possible Marriage

George F Martin,
May Andrews,
Sept Qtr 1922,
Toxteth Park, 8b 249

Children of above marriage


Births Jun 1923
Martin Alan F, Andrews. Liverpool 8b 360
Births Jun 1928
Martin Irene M, Andrews. Liverpool 8b 241

Hi Bert,

That is the one! Just spoken to my father and he said his mother's maiden name was Andrews! Thank you and how on earth did you manage to find that, if you don't mind me asking that is?

Kind regards

Lisa

Definitely the correct marriage .. Alan is my father and Irene is my aunt

Hi Lisa,

Using here, http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Fill in search boxes with what is known,

Surname, Martin,
Forename, George,

Spouse, forename , May,

choose years of search and area,

In this marriage George F Martin, Liverpool, 8b 249 in 1922 came up, click page number 249 and possible partners show, knowing May was his wife makes life easier, it had to be May Andrews.

Hope you understand that, I'm better finding than explaining.

A possible,

Medal Card,

Martin, George F,
Royal Engineers, Liverpool Regiment,
Rank, Sapper,
431967, 241459.

Hi Bert

Thank you once again, that is an amazing what you have found! Thanks also for the link .. off to have a good look around. As far as I am aware, my grandfather only served in the Kings Liverpool, either 5th or 6th, so I am unsure regarding the medal card for the Royal Engineers, but I will definitely look into it! Thank you once again, I really do appreciate the help you have given me

Kind regards

Lisa

I have a entry for a G.F. martin being wounded

18th-July-1916- Wounded approx on or about the 18th June 1916
King's Liverpool Regiment
Private
G.F
3566
Martin
Dingle
Wounded

I was unable to locate a medal card for this soldier. He may be recorded under his 6 digit number.

Hi Katie,

Thanks for your reply. That could most definitely be my grandfather! He lived in the Dingle area of Liverpool, around Park Road and was shot and injured, which damaged his ribs I believe. May I ask where you found the information? I am intrigued and very impressed at how people have helped and been able to locate the information! From what my father has told me, my grandfather was a Lewis gunner and was one of the men who would 'go over the top'. Is there any way in which I would be able to locate his 6 digit number at all?

Thanks again so much for your reply, my father is amazed at the amount of information which is available regarding his father.

Kind regards

Lisa

I have found a possible service number on a medals card for a George Martin, who served with the Kings Liverpool Regiment, however, no medals are listed? I wondered where I go from here, with regards to the number (92538)? I am unsure if this is my grandfather and I am sure that George Martin was probably quite a popular name at the time (which I have found through searching!). Again, appreciate all the help so far and would definitely appreciate it if anyone can point me in the right direction with this too.

Kind regards

Lisa

Hi Lisa,

Are you aware some records were destroyed, if you are signed in to Ancestry, the link should work, for explanation,

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1219

Bertieone wrote:A possible,

Medal Card,

Martin, George F,
Royal Engineers, Liverpool Regiment,
Rank, Sapper,
431967, 241459.

This medal card posted by Bertie could be George F Martin as if I am correct the Regiment number 241459 was the 5th/6th Regiment. Someone with knowledge of the renumbering maybe able to provide the answer.

The George F Martin Regiment number 3566 who was wounded may well be the same George F Martin above only this number has not been recorded on his Medal card.

Down at the Museum of Liverpool life is the Devereux Database of soldiers who served with the Liverpool Regiments this database was put together by Mr J. Devereux. You may get more information on this soldier.

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/ ... /kingsreg/

Morning Bert and Katie

I was planning a trip to the Museum this week and thank you so much for the information. I am so grateful for the help you have given and can't thank you enough. If anyone is able to help with the possible service number, I would be glad of the assistance!

Kind regards

Lisa

Private George F Martin with Regiment number 241459 will have been with the 6th Battalion King's Liverpool Regiment.

I have this soldier who was killed

King's Liverpool Regiment
Townley
241455
James
Corporal
Liverpool
30th September 1917
Died of Wounds
Son of James and Jane E. Townley, of 14, Milner Rd., Aigburth, Liverpool. Formerly of C.P.R., Liverpool.

He was with the 6th Battalion.

In my wounded lists I have:-

King's Liverpool Regiment
Private
Arthur B
241458
Moor
Liverpool
Wounded

And I have this soldier:-

King's Liverpool Regiment
Private
Gilbert
241460
Price
Liverpool
Wounded

Blame the German Luftwaffe destroying WW1 service records.

Hope this helps.

Well done, Katie,

Wounded soldier George F Martin, 3566 and George F Martin, 241459 must be the same person,

Soldier Arthur B Moor, 241458 has the 4 digit number, 3565, on his Medal card, assuming they must have joined up at the same time to have the 1 digit difference.

Gilbert Price 241460 his 4 digit number is 3567.