Mitchell family Liverpool, Oldham and Widnes.

[lynne99]

I have a family that after 1881 I cannot find.

James Mitchell b 1844 registered West Derby. Baptisms: 21 Apr 1844 St Michael in the Hamlet, Aigburth, Lancashire, England, Son of John Mitchell & Esther. Lived in Dingle Lane Occupation: Gardener.

Not found in 1851 census.
1861 census in Royal Navy at sea on board Orion, At least I think that is him.
Not found in 1871
1881 with wife Alice and 4 children
James Edward b 1869 Liverpool
John Austin 1873 Oldham
Margaret Ellen E b 1875 Oldham
Mary Alice b 1878 Haselden Yorkshire.
I can't find any deaths for them, or marriages or on any later censuses. I wondered if Alice might have been a second marriage , because there is a step daughter Mary Alice in Nottingham, but born Yorkshire and mother Elizabeth?? So not likely.
Also can't find Father James' marriage , Help please.
Thanks in anticipation.

[retiringtype]

1851

55 Ashton Street, Liverpool (St Silas)

Esther Mitchell widow 32 laundress born Allerton
Alexander 11 Allerton
John 9 West Derby
William 6 West Derby
James 5 West Derby

[retiringtype]

Looking at the online trees the consensus seems to be that James' parents were John Mitchell and Esther Bradshaw and that they were married !2th August 1838 at St Nicholas' in Liverpool. That John Mitchell was a gardener.

[retiringtype]

1901

6 Peter Street, Pendleton

Alice Mitchell wid 57 Ireland
Margaret Edge daur m 24 Oldham
William Edge son-in-law 26 Bricklayers' labourer Salford
Robert Holt boarder 30 Pendleton

[Bertieone]

Marriage cert off Public tree, Anc, if this image is considered out of order, I'll remove,

Alice Steakin, spinster.

[MaryA]

As it is publicly available (albeit with subscription) then why not!

[retiringtype]

Possible Royal Navy record at TNA (can't see it in the Ancestry data set) http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.u ... r/D7896343

[Bertieone]

Catholic Marriage,


Name
Aliciam Steakin

Marriage
8 Jul 1862
Parish
St Francis Xavier (Francisci Xavarii), Lancashire, England
Spouse
Jacobum Mitchell
Father
Patritci Steakin
Mother
Margareta Steakin
Spouse Father
Joannis Mitchell
Spouse Mother http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2182/ ... sePUB=true
Esther Mitchell

[lynne99]

Retiring type and Bert. THANKYOU
one child found, 3 to go. But now I know to look for catholic baptisms. But finding them in Oldham etc might be difficult.
Thanks again and Happy Christmas.

[lynne99]

Looking at Catholic baptisms on Anx , there are other children baptised.

[Bertieone]

In the event you haven't got these Lynne,

1841,
HO107, P567,

John Mitchell 30, Gardener,
Esther Mitchell 22
Alexander Mitchell 1
Mic Bradshaw 60

[Bertieone]

Alexander Edmund Mitchell
Birth Date
12 Jun 1840
Birth Place:
Woolton, Lancashire, England
Baptism Date
5 Jul 1840
Baptism
Woolton, Lancashire, England
Father
John Mitchell
Mother
Esther

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2575/ ... sePUB=true

[lynne99]

Hi, Bert and thanks. I have the details about John and Esther. If you remember we went to see his grave at Childwall church. A lovely place to be buried and such helpful people found the grave and told me were it was, so when we went, it did not take hours. He died from Tetanus after an injury at work. He was a gardener. I suppose that is how he could afford a head stone. Do you think his employers paid for it? If so how can I find out ?
I am now trying to find descendants in the 1911 census, but they seem to die off early
Thanks again Lynne

[MaryA]

Do you think his employers paid for it? If so how can I find out ?

I may be wrong but I've not heard of any stonemasons records kept, and I suspect even today, that would be the only place that would give a receipt. If you hear of any other means, I'd be very interested to know.

[retiringtype]

His employer in May/ June 1845 was William Shand, of Springwood, Allerton







(Liverpool Mail, 24 May, !2 June, 6 December 1845)

[lynne99]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU
I used my Lancs Library card and searched the papeers for the time of his death and found NOTHING.. How did you find them? I am so pleased THANKS

[retiringtype]

You can find them in the BNA database and on FMP.

[lynne99]

Thanks for that. I have FMP but can only find his death and the Erica prize, not the white grapes. Was that a different year?? You have been so kind thanks

[retiringtype]

Sorry, that one was in Gore's Liverpool General Advertiser for 12 June 1845 ("Woolton Horticultural Society") http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/view ... 0612%2f008

[lynne99]

Thanks yet again retiring type very grateful.