Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Hi All,
I have a Liverpool stone wall which is bugging me as I know so much about the earliest in the line and an amazed I cannot find more about his ancestry. What am I missing? Can anyone help?
My ancestor is one Thomas BELL. He is listed as both "Silver Watch Case Maker" & "Joiner" - an unlikely combination. I have one of his watch cases. He was a Roman Catholic and had five children baptised as RC in Liverpool between 1819 and 1829. The first two were born before he married Margaret MORLEY (b 1785) at Liverpool in1825. Patric (sic) BELL and James BELL were presumably relatives as they stood as sponsors to various of Thomas' children when they were baptised
I have not identified his death nor that of his wife All the children disappeared except for his eldest, Ann, who married Paul Clague in 1847 and took in. She had a younger brother, Richard Edward BELL ( b 1828) with her in 1851. After that Richard Edward disappeared too. The others may have emigrated but Ann stayed in Liverpool and is my great great grandmother.
I can find nothing about Thomas BELL's ancestry. Can anyone give me a lead?
Thanks in advance
Tam
I have a Liverpool stone wall which is bugging me as I know so much about the earliest in the line and an amazed I cannot find more about his ancestry. What am I missing? Can anyone help?
My ancestor is one Thomas BELL. He is listed as both "Silver Watch Case Maker" & "Joiner" - an unlikely combination. I have one of his watch cases. He was a Roman Catholic and had five children baptised as RC in Liverpool between 1819 and 1829. The first two were born before he married Margaret MORLEY (b 1785) at Liverpool in1825. Patric (sic) BELL and James BELL were presumably relatives as they stood as sponsors to various of Thomas' children when they were baptised
I have not identified his death nor that of his wife All the children disappeared except for his eldest, Ann, who married Paul Clague in 1847 and took in. She had a younger brother, Richard Edward BELL ( b 1828) with her in 1851. After that Richard Edward disappeared too. The others may have emigrated but Ann stayed in Liverpool and is my great great grandmother.
I can find nothing about Thomas BELL's ancestry. Can anyone give me a lead?
Thanks in advance
Tam
Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Hi and welcome,
Priscilla Bell
Age:
Full Age
Marriage
31 Mar 1845
Parish:
Liverpool, St Philip
Spouse's Name:
John Barrow
Father
Thomas Bell, Watchmaker, deceased.
Spouse Father
Wm Barrow
Priscilla Bell
Age:
Full Age
Marriage
31 Mar 1845
Parish:
Liverpool, St Philip
Spouse's Name:
John Barrow
Father
Thomas Bell, Watchmaker, deceased.
Spouse Father
Wm Barrow
Bert
Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Margaret Bell
Full Age
Marriage
29 Jan 1849
Parish:
Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse
Paul Clegg Widower
Father
Thomas Bell Watchmaker
Spouse Father
Robert Clegg, Farmer
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2197/ ... sePUB=true
Full Age
Marriage
29 Jan 1849
Parish:
Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse
Paul Clegg Widower
Father
Thomas Bell Watchmaker
Spouse Father
Robert Clegg, Farmer
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2197/ ... sePUB=true
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Bert
Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
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previous marriage to Ann?
Ann Bell
Full Age
Marriage Date:
25 Aug 1840
Parish:
Everton, St Augustine
Spouse's Name:
Paul Clague
Father, Joiner
Thomas Bell
Spouse Father
Robert Clague, Farmer
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2197/ ... sePUB=true
previous marriage to Ann?
Ann Bell
Full Age
Marriage Date:
25 Aug 1840
Parish:
Everton, St Augustine
Spouse's Name:
Paul Clague
Father, Joiner
Thomas Bell
Spouse Father
Robert Clague, Farmer
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2197/ ... sePUB=true
Bert
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Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Are you sure? Richard Bell appears with sister Priscilla Barrow and family in 1851, in Knuckle CourtAll the children disappeared except for his eldest, Ann, who married Paul Clague in 1847 and took in. She had a younger brother, Richard Edward BELL ( b 1828) with her in 1851.
Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
1841
Paul Clegue 20, Millwright
Ann Clegue 20
Richard Clegue 10, Transcription Error, Richard Bell.
HO107 P555 Book7
Paul Clegue 20, Millwright
Ann Clegue 20
Richard Clegue 10, Transcription Error, Richard Bell.
HO107 P555 Book7
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Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Just having a quick look in the directories.
1825
Bell, Patrick, watch case maker, 16 Chapel Lane
1827
Bell, Thomas, watchmaker, 18 Maguire Street
1829
Bell, Thomas, watchmaker, 19 Maguire Street
1825
Bell, Patrick, watch case maker, 16 Chapel Lane
1827
Bell, Thomas, watchmaker, 18 Maguire Street
1829
Bell, Thomas, watchmaker, 19 Maguire Street
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Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
"Papist" burial at St John's, 13 November 1829
Patrick Augustin Bell aged 5 months, son of Patrick and Augusta Bell, Ray Street, watch case maker
and another one on July 9th 1827
Maria Bell, 11 months, daughter of Patrick & Augusta Bell, Copperas Hill, labourer
Patrick Augustin Bell aged 5 months, son of Patrick and Augusta Bell, Ray Street, watch case maker
and another one on July 9th 1827
Maria Bell, 11 months, daughter of Patrick & Augusta Bell, Copperas Hill, labourer
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Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
1851 census 30 Fairview Place, Toxteth Park
All born Liverpool except Patrick born Ireland
Patrick Bell 48 watch case maker
Augusta Bell 46
Catherine 25 Bonnet Maker
Maria 20 Ap
Henry 18 Ap
Robert 8 scholar
All born Liverpool except Patrick born Ireland
Patrick Bell 48 watch case maker
Augusta Bell 46
Catherine 25 Bonnet Maker
Maria 20 Ap
Henry 18 Ap
Robert 8 scholar
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Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Patrick Bell, Watch case maker.
Marriage
5 Jul 1824
Liverpool, St Paul
Spouse
Augusta Fegan
Present. Richard Cave, Amelia Bendy?
Marriage
5 Jul 1824
Liverpool, St Paul
Spouse
Augusta Fegan
Present. Richard Cave, Amelia Bendy?
Bert
Re: Thomas BELL, Watch Case Maker
Thank you all for these hints. It certainly gives me some lines to chase
In passing, the Paul Clague mentioned was the ancestor of one of the Bettles (by a different wife)
In passing, the Paul Clague mentioned was the ancestor of one of the Bettles (by a different wife)