I hope it is this area. They had their children here.

[lynne99]

I am looking for further details about GEORGE COWLEY , who I believe was born about 1775, and his wife MARY MASON. They had 6 or 7 children, Francis b 1802; (Thomas b c 1802?); James b 1804; Mary 1806: Sarah 1808; James 1811; Elizabeth 1816. The children were baptised at St Nicks and the family lived in Denison Street and George was a plaisterer or labourer. From Lancs OPC.
I have not been able to find either of them on the 1841 census. There is a George Cowley of the correct age, born out of county, in Union St. but he appears to have Isabella and George aged c 20 years. Can't find baptisms for them either.
I have ancestry so could look up on there if you have any ideas. Cannot find baptisms for either George or Mary. Cannot confirm deaths for them either. There is a Mary Coley buried 3 Nov 1831 in Prescot. But why would that be??? Help if poss please.

[MaryA]

Checking directories
1825 Baines has a George Cowley at 64 Sparling Street, no occupation given

No Georges in either 1790 or 1825 or 1827, nor 1843 however in this directory Jane Cowley, occupation Boarding House, 17 Union Street, so she may have taken over from George who is mentioned in the 1841 census with this occupation. Don't know if this will help rule out this particular George.

[lynne99]

Thanks Mary. Would a plaisterer or labourer be in a directory? and where is Sparling St?

[MaryA]

I often expect that most people should be in a street directory but sometimes I'm disappointed in finding them. A trade section of the directory would presumably be different in that they would be paying for advertising themselves.

Sparling Street in the middle left square, by Wapping
http://www.liverpool-city-group.com/str ... 901/f4.htm

[lynne99]

Thanks for those streets Mary.
I have found a tree on ancestry. It has Mary MASON b 1778, bap St Nicholas and father John , soldier in the Liverpool Regiment. Non of their children were called John, but non were called George either, so perhaps that does not matter.
The tree also has her dying Dec 1845, buried at St Mary's Liverpool. I don't think it is St Mary's Kirkdale, because I have looked on the Toxteth park site (St Mary's Kirkdale branch) and it does not mention a Mary Cowley. (In fact no Cowley at all in 1845). Was there another St Mary's Cemetery? She died in the workhouse, so I don't think a death cert will help. What do you think? They have an estimated birth for her husband George as 1782, but I have no idea where it has come from. Again no sign of their marriage. Oh dear. If Mary did not die until 1845 then she should be in the 1841 census.

[Bertieone]

Lynne,

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss ... sePUB=true


?
Mary Cowley
Age:
70
Birth Date:
1779
Burial Date:
31 Jul 1849
Burial Place:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England

View Blue's post,
https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... =2&t=14097

1845, Mary Cowley, workhouse
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/ ... PUBJs=true

[lynne99]

Bert Thank you. Any sign of George, I don't think he was born or died
lso, no sign of either of them on 1841 census

[Blue70]

Here is the Workhouse record for that 1845 Workhouse death, third down from the top:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=507318


Blue

[lynne99]

Thanks for that Blue. Born in the Isle of Man. Searched for a Mary Mason b IOM none in the right time nearest 1773, by chance there is a George Cowley born in the same parish at the same time!! Too much of a coincidence??
There is a Mary Cowley Buried Low Hill 1830 aged 59. Died of cancer. Benn Street. Any Idea where that is. Not on 1901 map and Liverpool history maps have vanished

[Bertieone]

Lynne,

The George Cowley of Union Street died in 1850 and was buried from that address (Bishops Transcripts)
Mary pointed to Jane Cowley, Union St, Boarding House, 1843 Directory.

Possible marriage, George Cowley/Jane Brennan, widow, 1822, St Peter's

There was a George Cowley baptised on the IOM, 1773, parents, Thomas Crowley/Isabel Craine
May be a hint towards George having an Isabella aged 20/24 on the 1841 census.

Can't find a marriage, George Cowley/Mary Mason anywhere, perhaps they never married or went their separate ways.

Look into, Mary Cowley, widow, marring Thomas Davies, Carter, 1819, St Peter.

Also, Mary Cowley (daughter?) marring Samuel Hughes, Carter, 1824, St Peter's

Clutching at straws, introduction through occupation

[Blue70]

Thanks for that Blue. Born in the Isle of Man. Searched for a Mary Mason b IOM none in the right time nearest 1773, by chance there is a George Cowley born in the same parish at the same time!! Too much of a coincidence??
There is a Mary Cowley Buried Low Hill 1830 aged 59. Died of cancer. Benn Street. Any Idea where that is. Not on 1901 map and Liverpool history maps have vanished

The places on the Workhouse records refer to settlement ie parish responsible for the person not place of birth you would need to read up further about that but my impression of this candidate is that she was a more recent migrant from the Isle of Man so unlikely to be the person you are looking for.


Blue

[lynne99]

Thanks Blue, one I can get rid of . That is as useful as finding them. (Well nearly)
Bert, Start with the one I know Mary Cowley, who married Samuel Hughes in 1824 was the daughter of George Cowley and Mary (mason) b 1806.
Their last child was born 1816 (first 1800 ish), so I suppose George might have died and Mary could have remarried. Will look into that.
They lived around Vauxhall Rd Area. Any idea where Benn St was?
Thanks both, much appreciated x

[Bertieone]

Lynne,

There's a Benn's Gardens and Bent Street,

https://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/ ... -IND-B.htm

[lynne99]

Thanks Bert. Bent St look promising. The family for ever it seems lived around Vauxhall Rd area and that would fit in nicely. That is where Mary Cowley died 1830 was buried from. Low Hill Cemetery. I will investigate that further.
Think our posts crossed.
George Cowley in the 1814 census , boarding house, with Isabella and George (mariner)was married to a Jane in the early 1800s and had children baptised at a similar time to George and Mary's (ie between 1800 and 1816) . At one time they lived in Sparling Street. I do not think they can be the same family as mine, as they overlap.
The Mary Cowley buried Low Hill was a catholic, does this throw a spanner in the works. Think I might give up on this branch and try another for a while.

[Blue70]

Lynne

Which of their children is your direct ancestor and can you give us census details for them? There's a lot names coming up here making it confusing. I'd rather look at someone that is a definite match on the census records then go backwards.


Blue

[lynne99]

Yes I can do that. Elizabeth COWLEY, born 1816 when George and Mary were living in East Street and she was Christened on 18th September at St Peter's Liverpool. She was the last of the 7 children that I have found. In the 1841 census she is with her husband, Richard Howard, b 1819, and family living in Pye Place off Vauxhall Road.
2 of George and Mary's children died before the 1841 census (Francis b 1802 d 1825 buried St John's, James b 1804 Denison St and died 1809 don't know where buried.)
There is also Sarah b 1808, I don't know what happened to her.
The remaining 4 children
1) Thomas b c 1802 married 1821 St Nicks to Ann Groves (4 children); 1835 to Margaret Groves at St Peter's (1 Child) and 1844 at St Martins to Ann Mason (I don't know if she was a relation to his mother or not). He died 1845 buried St Martin's. (worn out I would think) Can't find him on 1841 census. Had

2) Mary b1806 bap st Nicks married 1824 to Samuel Hughes at St Peter's. Marriage 2 1849 St Peter's to William Hussey. On both 1841 Eaton St, and 51 census Gascoyne St. No death found yet.

3) James b 1811 bap St Peter's. Married Jane Wilson 1832, he was a hairdresser. Lived 16, Leece St on 41 and 51 censi. No death found yet.

I know stacks of info about Elizabeth and her descendants, but would like to go further back. Thanks for your help
Lynne
James b
Elizabeth b1816

[Blue70]

I was looking at this burial but haven't been able to establish what church it is it might be St John Liverpool it's during a few years when I can't access images on Family Search for St John. Maybe the image is on Ancestry as a bishop's transcript? I don't have access to Ancestry or FMP at the moment:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCY8-7ZJ


Blue

[Bertieone]

I was looking at this burial but haven't been able to establish what church it is it might be St John Liverpool it's during a few years when I can't access images on Family Search for St John. Maybe the image is on Ancestry as a bishop's transcript? I don't have access to Ancestry or FMP at the moment:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCY8-7ZJ


Blue

Name:
Mary Cowley
Birth Year:
abt 1776
Death Age:
45
Burial Date:
3 Nov 1821
Burial Parish:
Prescot, St Mary, Lancashire, England

[Blue70]

I am looking for further details about GEORGE COWLEY , who I believe was born about 1775, and his wife MARY MASON. They had 6 or 7 children, Francis b 1802; (Thomas b c 1802?); James b 1804; Mary 1806: Sarah 1808; James 1811; Elizabeth 1816. The children were baptised at St Nicks and the family lived in Denison Street and George was a plaisterer or labourer. From Lancs OPC.
I have not been able to find either of them on the 1841 census. There is a George Cowley of the correct age, born out of county, in Union St. but he appears to have Isabella and George aged c 20 years. Can't find baptisms for them either.
I have ancestry so could look up on there if you have any ideas. Cannot find baptisms for either George or Mary. Cannot confirm deaths for them either. There is a Mary Coley buried 3 Nov 1831 in Prescot. But why would that be??? Help if poss please.

Thanks Bert I think Lynne has this but as "Mary Coley buried 3 Nov 1831 in Prescot" rather than Mary Cowley buried 3 Nov 1821. There appears to be a lot of Cowleys and Masons in the registers


Blue

[lynne99]

The Mary Cowley buried Prescot 1821 abode Liverpool, so it could be her and could account for why there were no more children. But why buried Prescot, was she baptised there.? Any way I have to go to work now , bye and thanks