Please could I ask opinions on an 1851 census entry

[graleystives]

I am looking at my G G Grandmother's family who lived in Yorkshire before she came to Lancashire to have my G Grandmother.
I am having trouble reading an entry from the 1851 census (Yorkshire - Filey- District 13-11).
The entry is for a Samuel Huntress (although I think his name may be Hunter looking at the 2 entries below who I would guess are his parents) I think Janew was his mother and Elizabeth, the head of the household was her mother.
For Samuel the entry is transposed by Ancestry as "nurse child". I dont think it says this but I cant work out what I think it does say!
I would be very grateful for opinions!

[Hilary]

Please post the full reference to the entry so we can look at

Hilary
Ed Officer

I've found it and it clearly records the child as Samuel Huntress the nurse child is written in the relationship column. A nurse child was a child taken in as a baby usually because the mother had died and there was someone in the household who had just had a baby and could feed the child. It would appear in this case he just stayed.

The couple underneath him are Hunter but I imagine that could just be coincidence. You would need to check back Samuel's beginnings to find out more about him

[graleystives]

I hope

[graleystives]

Just looking at it again I think he was Huntress. As on the 1861 there is a Samuel Huntress still with the family and his occupation is shown as servant.

So Ithink that the people below are Hunter is just a coincidence.

[Hilary]

By the 1861 census he is stiull in the same household listed as a servant. By 1871 he is married to Rachel and shows in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census still in the same area and still called HUNTRESS and generally with a birthplace of Seamer.

Hilary
Ed Officer

[graleystives]

Many thanks for your help.
It makes sense now. It looks like he was brought up by the family. I suppose he may have been a relative - I will have to go further back to find out.
Unfortunately I cant trace his birth but his marriage is listed so that may give some clues.
Many thanks again.

[Tina]

Hi everyone
Free BMD have a marriage for Samuel HUNTRISS to
to Rachel Barker
1865 Scarboro Yorks.
I hope this helps

Tina

[graleystives]

Many thanks,
Jill

[graleystives]

Thanks to your help I have now delved a little deeper into Samuel Huntress. I have found his birth (as Huntriss) in 1845.
My search started with Lily Goodwill who was born in 1862 to her unmarried mother and raised by a William Goodwill Robson in Manchester who was born in 1858 in Scarborough.
Looking at William on the 1851 census to try and establish family links he is listed as a visitor with a Susannah Huntriss - so there is obviously a family connection between the Goodwills, Huntriss and Robson families - not quite got my head round it yet!
Under Susannahs entry there is a third person - it looks like Sampale - can anyone make sense of it? The ref is
Class: RG9; Piece: 3619; Folio: 51; Page: 2; GSU roll: 543162
Many thanks

[MaryA]

That is the 1861 census your reference leads to, but it gets to the page.

Sampale I would think it is, I would suspect that whoever gave the information to the enumerator didn't know her full name.

I hope she doesn't turn out to be related since you may never find out the truth about who she is.

[Tina]

Hi everyone
born Robin Hoods Bay 1842c.
This is the only one I can find in Whitby rego using phonetic search.

Isabella SAMPLE dec qtr 1842.

Tina

[MaryA]

Isabella SAMPLE dec qtr 1842.

Clever girl Tina. You never know when phonetic sounding names might give clues to other relatives, typical example was when I found a James HEIR who should have been Ayre. Let's hope this is one of those moments.

[Tina]

and my grandee Cornthwaite as Cowthwaite Mary...
Tina oxo

[marchbird]

Could this be the connection?

Marriage of Elizabeth Goodwill to John Robson, Scarborough Dec Qtr 1853 - a farmer. They have three sons, Michael, June Qtr 1854, William Goodwill, Sept Qtr 1857, and Jonathan, Sept Qtr 1859 , probably named after her brother (1851 census). On the 1861 census John and Elizabeth appear with their sons Michael and Jonathan while William is with Susanna Huntress.

Elizabeth is the young daughter on the 1851 census (which I think you have).

Going back to the 1841 census, the family is recorded as Goodill - mother Elizabeth, head, farmer probably a widow, daughter Elizabeth is aged 6, and there is a family servant named Susanna Huntris, aged 15. Could she be Samuel's unmarried mother?

Marchbird

[marchbird]

Have found a marriage for Elizabeth Huntriss to Arthur Goodwill - 26th July 1820 at Seamer. (near Scarborough). Could this be Elizabeth senior as on 1841 and 1851 censuses?

Also a marriage for Jane Goodwill (the above Elizabeth's daughter) to Thomas Hunter. Sept Qtr 1850 - Scarborough, 24, p. 537. They were on the 1851 census.

Marchbird

[graleystives]

Many thanks for your help.
Tina - I think that must be "my" sampale - It looks like Susannah was running a boarding house and Isabel Sample was a boarder - many thanks for finding out for me.
Marchbird - that information really is a missing piece of a jigsaw. Thank you. My G Grandma - Lily Goodwill was born at (and then raised as the adopted daughter) of William Goodwill Robson. Her mother, Elizabeth Ann, was unmarried and Jonathon Goodwill's daughter. His sister, as you found, was Jonathon's sister. So Lily's Mum and William Goodwill Robson were cousins.
It looks like she went to his house, had the baby, and then returned to Scarborough.

Its fantastic as bits of information fall into place!

Many many thanks everyone.

[pinner-girl]

I have just spotted this post and hope to make contact with the initiator.
My Great Grandfather was WILLIAM GOODWILL ROBSON who adopted Lily Goodwill.
I have quite a lot of information about this family including a group photograph which includes Lily as a very young girl. I had always wondered why Lily was adopted by Annie and William who had so many children of their own to look after. It would be interesting to hear what happened to her in later life.

[MaryA]

Hi and welcome to the forum. The original poster is not a member of the Society so I am unable to contact them, but perhaps they will keep an eye on this message and come back to reply.

[Tina]

Hi and welcome aboard.
I do hope you make a connection here through the forum.
It's been a long time since we had contact with the poster.
Perhaps try another source?
=There are 2 people in Genes ReUnited for W.G.R both have him born in
Lebberston N Yorkshire
Warmies

[pinner-girl]

Thank you so much for your message, Tina.

It will be such a shame if I am unable to contact the original poster because the old photograph that I have of the Robson family has just been sent from Australia and was taken in Manchester in the 1890's.

It is amazing because I have now been able to show my 95 year old mother pictures of the grandparents, uncles and aunts that she had never seen (or even knew about).