Seaman William Ruddy

Post by **Droid1** » 14 Aug 2011 09:03

Hi all

would like some help, searching for my grand father William Ruddy I know according to his marraige certificate 1914 he was listed as a Marine Fireman but dont know if he was in the Royal Navy or Merchant Navy, all my Aunt told me he went to Sea, is thier a site i can check for Merchant Seamen?.

Also the address on William Ruddy's Marriage Cert. lists the address a 1Court 1 House Blackstone St. Liverpool 5, No 1 Blackastone St is listed on the 1911 census but not 1 Court any help on that plz.

Post by **Katie** » 14 Aug 2011 09:13

He will have been in the Merchant Navy. Just checked to see if there was a Seamans medal card for him on the National Archives site Only found one. see link

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... ultcount=1

Dont know ifthis is him

Post by **Tina** » 14 Aug 2011 09:48

Hi Droid

Number 1 house number 1 Court may not have been off number 1 Blackstone St.
Some of the enumerators didn't do the courts I've been told.
Did you find Wm Ruddy in 19@@ census at all, or his family??
No help in Gores/Kellys 1911 for street, don't know his father's name so can't help looking under Ruddy.

Tina

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Aug 2011 12:45

Hi Droid,
What was William Ruddy's date of birth and do you have him in any census? Do you have his father's name [also William?]?

If the William Katie found in the NA records is the right man, bn Seaforth, abt 1893, then in 19** he seems to be here, in the Army:
RUDDY, William - u/m - 21 - 1890 - Soldier, gunner - bn Seaforth.
Address: 19 Brigade Royal Field Artillery, Tempe, Orange Free State, SA.

This matches an entry in 1901:
RUDDY, William - Head - Married - 49 - 1852 - Dock Labourer - Liverpool.
RUDDY, Rosina - Wife - 50 - 1851 - Manchester.
RUDDY, William - Son - u/m - 11 - 1890 - Seaforth, Lancashire.
Address: 46 Akenside Street, Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancs.
RG13 / Piece: 3463 / Folio:52 / Page:38.

DS

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Aug 2011 13:17

William married Mary A Mullen..
Marriage Dec qtr 1914 - Liverpool - 8b - 152: Mullen, Mary A and Ruddy, William.

Looked for a Mary Mullen in 19** hoping for a Blackstone St address without success. What was Mary's YoB and father's name/occupation?

DS

Post by **erika** » 14 Aug 2011 13:26

1914 Gore's Directory

There are 4 names under Ruddy, but not William

James joiner 7 May Street Bootle

John 59 Aubrey Street E

John Henry insurance supt 6 Cheltenham Ave, Toxteth Park

Joseph postman 17 Redcar St, Anfield E

Nothing for Blackstone St, Court 1, but I don't think Courts seem to be recorded in directories, sorry not much help.

Cheers
Erika

Post by **Droid1** » 14 Aug 2011 16:46

thanks people for your reply's,to Tina I am confused too, my grandad was born 1891 William Ruddy (Father) married Rosina Simpson 1894, but Sarah jane Ruddy (Noonan) was his mum Rosina Ruddy(Simpson)
was his Step Mum cant find any of the Ruddy's between 1901/1911, my Living Aunt told me my G/f had two brothers to Rosina Ruddy(Simpson) whether she reverted to her maiden name Scott I cant trace even under Simpson total mess...lol

thanks Katie kept the addy for National Archives will look up

Post by **Hilary** » 14 Aug 2011 17:13

1911 census shows a Rosina Ruddy of the right age in the right place

The military records (British Army Service Records) on www.findmypast.co.uk show a William Ruddy of the right place. Might be worth a few credits to see them

Post by **Droid1** » 14 Aug 2011 18:13

thanks Hil can you give me the right place as you mentioned in your reply for Rosina Ruddy and I will surely pay the 30 credits on findmy past for the transcript, I could not find Rosina ruddy or my grandad's half brothers Stephen and Graham as my Aunt told me they emergrated she is not sure if it was Australia

Post by **Hilary** » 14 Aug 2011 18:49

Just search for Rosina Ruddy born Manchester living Lancashire and she pops up!!

Post by **Hilary** » 14 Aug 2011 19:14

Rosina as you say was Scott she married George Simpson in 1871 at St Mary Kirkdale

1881 census shows her with 3 children Eleanor aged 8, May or |Mary aged 6 and Rosanna 2 born Scotland. Other 2 bn Liverpool.

Post by **Droid1** » 14 Aug 2011 19:24

thanks for the infom Hilary I knew all about her marriage to george simpson and her children, when you 1st replied I thought it was about her and my great grand dad in the 1911 census

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Aug 2011 19:28

Ten years after 1901....
Rosina Ruddy, mother-in-law and widow aged 62 & bn Manchester, is living at 4 Albany Place, Bootle, the home of her daughter, Eleanor, bn abt 1873. Eleanor is married to George Thomas Fowler [39] from London.

DS

Post by **Hilary** » 14 Aug 2011 20:22

If you READ my post it was about Rosina Ruddy in the 1911 census

I said
1911 census shows a Rosina Ruddy of the right age in the right place

You won't find William Rosina's husband in 1911 as according to Dickie Sam's post he's dead!

I'll leave it to others now.

Post by **dickiesam** » 14 Aug 2011 20:47

Education Officer wrote: You won't find William Rosina's husband in 1911 as according to Dickie Sam's post he's dead!

I believe this to be Rosina's husband...
Deaths Jun qtr 1909: RUDDY, William Joseph - 54 - W. Derby - 8b - 235.

DS

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