Information on Edward Leatherbarrow

[rankin216]

trying to research my family history and having a hard time finding information on Edward Leatherbarrow...Married Caroline, no one in the family knows of her maiden name. There are 2 children that I am aware of Dorothy who married Rankin and an Uncle Edward who moved to Australia. I need any information going back...Carolines maiden name would be helpful, how do I find this info

[daggers]

Rankin
Welcome to this forum where lots of people help with searching.

I think we need some dates before we know where to look!
D

[rankin216]

That is the problem, I really have no additional info...Dorothy Leatherbarrow Rankin was born in the year 1902 and died 1 April 1950 is buried in Bootle cemetery. The only memory my father has are his grandparents names...Caroline (unknown surname) and Edward

[Barbara B]

Have found the marriage of Edward Leatherbarrow to Caroline Chubb at Bootle St Mary's in 1899. Her father is Daniel and his father is Thomas. If you have access to Ancestry there is a family tree which will give you a lot of info - including two or three siblings for Dorothy and Thomas. Search for Edward born 1876. You can also look at the marriage certificate.
Cheers
Barbara

[MaryA]

Just to add to Barbara's information above, the marriage took place on 28th April, 1899, both were 23 years old gave their address as 5 Berry Street, Bootle, his and his father's occupation was Carter and hers Winder and her father's Labourer. The witnesses were Alfred Davidson and Mary Agnes Ellison - these might mean something to your family, or may just be friends.

[MaryA]

The 1901 census gives them at 59 Carolina Street South, Bootle cum Linacre
Jane Ellison Head Wid 49 Machine Winder in Jute Works Lancashire Old Swan
Mary A Ellison daur S 22 Weaver in Jute Works " Bootle
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Edward Leatherbarrow Head M 25 General Carter " Little Crosby
Caroline Wife M 25 " Bootle
Thomas son 1 " "
RG13; Piece: 3460; Folio: 154; Page: 52

[rankin216]

Spoke with my father and he remembers that his grandmother was from the Channel Islands, there is a census (1901) that a Daniel Chubb and his wife, also named Caroline are listed and she is from the Channel Islands. Now does anyone know how to access any information so that I may find her surname...all I can find is her listed as Chubb

[Hilary]

According to www.lancashirebmd.org.uk a Daniel Chubb married Caroline Potter in 1866 at St John Bootle

The 1891 census shows them at Brasenose Road Bootle both born Guernsey. With them is Caroline aged 18and William aged 8. Both chidlren born Liverpool.

[Hilary]

In 1871 Daniel and Caroline are in Kirkdale. In 1861 Daniel is in St Peter Port Guernsey with his parents Thomas and Mary Ann.

[rankin216]

Great info...I am still having a problem with the Edward Leatherbarrow (b1876) side, I have his parents as thomas Leatherbarrow and his mother which I can only come up with the first name Jane...have spent the better part of the day trying to find the info.

My dad also is looking for his uncle Edward Leatherbarrow (brother to Dorothy, Nellie, Thomas) I would assume his birth to be about the early 1900's...my dad remebers him leaving the UK to settle in Australia...Sydney I think.

[Hilary]

In 1901 edward says he was born in Little Crosby so

1891 census 14 Clifford St Bootle
Thomas Leatherbarrow 51 carter bn Little Crosby
Ellen wife 46 bn Burscough
Henry 20
Elizabeth 19
Phoebe 17
Edward 15
children born Little Crosby

1881 census 64 Denbigh St Bootle
Ellen 34 ag lab's wife bn Burscough
Joseph 10
henry 9
Elizabeth 8
Phoebe 6
Edward 5
all these born Little Crosby
Mary 10 months bn Bootle

1871 census Little Crosby village
Thomas leatherbarrow 32 ag lab bn Little Crosby
Ellen 26 bn Burscough
Joseph 2
henry 3 months

Little Crosby was a Catholic village

Thomas Leatherbarrow married Ellen Rimmer on 15 June 1868 at St Mary's RC Liverpool. Their marriage is on Ancestry and says Thomas Leatherbarrow of Little Crosby son of Edward and Helena (Ellen) Rimmer daughter of Nicoli (Nicholas) Rimmer.

In 1851 Ellen born Burscough is in Everton her father is down as Nickels!

[rankin216]

I strongly feel this is not the right Leatherbarrow...but thank you. This seems to be the trouble I keep having

[northmeols]

I have many Leatherbarrows in my line but unless you can give an approximate date of birth and a marriage date or age when he went to sea. we will all be clutching at straws. most Leatherbarrows came form DownHolland and Little Crosby areas. PLEASE give us more to go on.

[rankin216]

I will start at my grandmother and go back from there
Dorothy Leatherbarrow born 1902
her parents are Edward Leatherbarrow born 1876 date of death unknown
Edward married Caroline Chubb who was born about 1876
they had 5 other children in addition to Dorothy

EdwardII
Mary or Marie
Nellie
Thomas

I do have a wedding photo of when Dorothy married George Rankin and all the Leatherbarrows I have mentioned are in the photo. Dorothy's wedding was in 1923 so Edward the father passed on after that

It was Edward II that went to Australia.

[rankin216]

there were 5 children total in the Leatherbarrow family

[Hilary]

Please post 1911 census for the family.

The 1901 census shows Edward Leatherbarrow as born in Little Crosby. The marriage says his father is Thomas. The Edward I found and posted is the only one born Little Crosby with father Thomas.

Please explain why this is not the correct family.

[MaryA]

information on Edward Leatherbarrow...Married Caroline,

To take you back to your original query - as above - you don't have Caroline's name but you could get it from the birth certificate of one of the children.

IF this certificate shows the mother to be Caroline Chubb then our crew has got the correct marriage - showing Edward's father to be Thomas, also a carter. If this is correct, it would seem that the findings of the family in Bootle giving the specific birthplace of Little Crosby should also be correct as there is no other family with those same details.

So we need you to be extremely specific as to why you don't think the research that has been found is correct and also give us the mother's name from the birth certificate.

[rankin216]

You know I should limit myself to only a few hours at a time....I am so crazed to get this done for my father that you are right Hillary you have found the right Leatherbarrow and I was too tired to connect it in my brain. What a wonderful community of people...I am new to this so my apologies. How do I go about getting birth certificates in the UK I am in the US

[rankin216]

I am trying to view the 1881 census on Ancestry and I can't find one...is there another source for the census

[MaryA]

If you go to the link for UK Censuses, it should give you a list of all censuses, eg 1841 Channel Isles, 1841 Wales, 1841 England etc. and down that list in date order will be 1881 England.

Alternatively you can search it at www.familysearch.org

Use http://freebmd.org.uk/ to identify the birth you require, take a note of the quarter, year, district, volume and page number and you can order the certificate online at www.gro.gov.uk using that information.