DUNFORD FAMILY TREE,

[bobdunford]

Iany one has my family tree in there family please get in touch.we could help each other.
in my family tree just foundout that john dunford born 1812 .married ann campbell.born 1819,both livee in liverpool lancashire.they had four children henry dunford born 1849
anna dunford born 1855
john dunford born 1858
martha dunford born 1859
the son john dunford married mary ann mcmonagle born 1860.in walton onthe hill liverpool.in 1878.
they had 8 children.all born everton liverpool lived in 64 seaforth road seaforth
they were eva dunford
cecellia dunford
nancy dunford
mary ann dunford born 17 june 1883
phillip dunford born 1884
edith ann dunford born 1887
ellen dunford born 1888
john francis borgia dunford born 1889
john francis borgia dunford was my father he married lavinia sampson in 1918 in west derby liverpool.
please can any body find out more about them john dunford /ann campbell .mother and father would really help .

[MaryA]

Can you tell us where you have the information about the John Dunford/Ann Campbell marriage as there appear to be very few John Dunford marriages in Liverpool and I don't find one to an Ann.

[MaryA]

phillip dunford born 1884

Is this date correct?
Philippus Dunford born 28 Sep 1881 baptised 16 Oct 1881 St Francis Xavier´s (Francisci Xavarii)
Parents Joannis Dunford, Mariae Annae Mcmonagle

[MaryA]

edith ann dunford born 1887

Editha Anna Dunford born 19 Apr 1885 baptised 2 May 1885 St Francis Xavier´s (Francisci Xavarii)
Parents Joannis Dunford, Maria Anna Mcmonagle

[MaryA]

The one you quote as Mary Ann appears to be
Maria Agnes Dunford 17 Jun 1883 1 Jul 1883 St Francis Xavier´s (Francisci Xavarii)
Parents Joanis Dunford, Marioe Annae Mc Monagle
as Mary Ann seems to be much later and missed from your list
Maria Anna Dunford 11 Apr 1892 28 Apr 1892 St Michael
Parents Joannis Dunford, Mariae Annae Mcmonogle

[Bertieone]

Brothers Marriage,

July 10th 1837, St Peter, Liverpool,
Thomas Dunford, minor, bachelor, Carter, Bevington st.
Sarah Williams, minor, spinster, Woodstock St.
Fathers, John Dunford, Carter, Thomas Williams, Labourer.
Witnesses, William Robinson, Christiana Magstaff.



Bert

[Bertieone]

1851 census
3 court, 32 Maguire?

John Dunford, head, 37, Broom maker
Ann, 30,
Ellen, dau, 5
Henry, son, 2
Thomas Dunford, brother, 33, Carter.
Sarah, wife, 30, servant,
Albert, son, 4,
James, son, 6
all born Liverpool.
HO107, piece 2178, folio 68, page 27


Bert

[Bertieone]

1881, possibly the enumerator has recorded the name incorrectly.
3 Tichfield St, Liverpool.

John Dumforth, head, 69, Broom Maker.
Ann, wife, 60.
John O'brian, grandson, 4 months.
all born Liverpool.


Marriage, Dec 25th, 1874, St Alban, Liverpool.

John O'brian, 19, bachelor, Labourer, Bussough? Gardens.
Anne Dunford, 20, spinster,
fathers, Edward O'brian, Labourer, John Dunford, Labourer.
Witnesses, Joseph ???, Mary Jane Tittersons??

bert

[moya]

If Thomas is John's brother then there is a baptism for a Thomas Dunford, 19th February 1815. Parents John and Martha Dunford. Sponsors John Scallion and Ann Doyle. As John had a daughter named Martha this could be a possibility. Couldn't find baptism for John though. Moya

[MaryA]

The place of the baptism of Thomas is in St Mary's RC, the religion falls in with others that have been found for the family.

Just as an extra there is also a baptism for a William Dunford at the same church, same parents, John and Martha. William born 17th February and baptised 22nd February, 1818 (conditionally). Sponsors John Campbell and Catharine Frances.

This extra baptism might be important in linking the Campbell name that Bob believes to be connected.

[bobdunford]

The place of the baptism of Thomas is in St Mary's RC, the religion falls in with others that have been found for the family.

Just as an extra there is also a baptism for a William Dunford at the same church, same parents, John and Martha. William born 17th February and baptised 22nd February, 1818 (conditionally). Sponsors John Campbell and Catharine Frances.

This extra baptism might be important in linking the Campbell name that Bob believes to be connected.

Just had some more News which might be helpful Grace Anastasia Dunford known as nancy.( DAUGHTER OF JOHN AND MARY ANN MCMONAGLE) married her cousin Herbet Dunford so it seems so they Adopted a Girl name Lorna.Also a Son ? Now Lorna married a Canadian James Gillespie.And i have been in touch with Lorna.Now she was born in Liverpool.Lancahire.So her Husband paid out for a Family Tree for her.Some Time ago.Now she has sent me the Family Tree .But i cant see how it meets my Family Tree .It goes back to 12 71.John de Babington.who had five sons all knights of the knights Templar,
William de Babbington eldest son in the Black Book of Hexhas.
Sir Berhard de Babington
Sir John de Babington.
Son Adan de Babington rector of Cambridge 1416

Son Thomas Babington
is said to saved Henry the V.At Agincourt, Knighted by Henry the V.
Sonr norman married mary Daughter of Duke of Norfolk
this go on till 1764 Robert Babington, Daughtere Married George Errington

had three daughters.
Mary Babington married richard higham
Ann Errington married Lancelot Stoddard there Daughter married Thomas Dunford of Cranlington
Catherine Errington died unmarried leaving her Possesions to Ann and Thomas Dunford
they had two sons Michael Dunford and Thomas Dunford
now i don't know if they are part of my Dunford tree,Does not mention John Dunford or Martha Dunford
just thought i should let you know,might be a hoax.thank you from bob dunford

[MaryA]

It might not be so much a hoax as without step by step evidence, how does the lady know that everything is accurate. As we have said previously, every step backwards should be supported by documentary evidence, marriage and birth certificates to confirm parentage and then parish registers and whatever other evidence is available, which if you are to accept this tree they should have let you have sight of.

[dickiesam]

It might not be so much a hoax as without step by step evidence, how does the lady know that everything is accurate. As we have said previously, every step backwards should be supported by documentary evidence, marriage and birth certificates to confirm parentage and then parish registers and whatever other evidence is available, which if you are to accept this tree they should have let you have sight of.

Bob, I agree 100% with MaryA. Without documentary evidence as to sources of information any step backward is irrelevant and a 'leap of faith'. Those sources should be noted on the tree and be available to you as confirmation.

I can take my family name back to before 1100 in southern England and 1172 in Ireland. Two brothers, Norman knights accompanying Henry the 2nd on his mission to subjugate and conquer Ireland, arrived in Ireland in 1172 and settled on land here after Henry had returned to England. But there's no evidence that I am directly connected to them.

However, there is a gentleman in England who is a direct descendant of one of the brothers and can prove each step and generation with documentation.

[bobdunford]

from family search-John Dunford married to Martha Dunford
England Deaths and Burials 1583 -1991 John Dunford
name John Dunford
Gender Male
Burial Date 12 Aug 1837
Burial Place Liverpool ,Lancashire ,England
Age 59
Birth Date 1778
Indexing Project ( batch number)Bo3604-8
System Origen England Easy
Reference Number V/4/1

Marriage of John Dunford and Martha Son
Grooms Name Thomas Dunford
Brides Name Sarah Williams
Marriage Date 10 Jul 1837
Marriage Place Liverpool ,Lancashire,England
Grooms Father's Name John Dunford
Brides Father's Name Thomas Williams
Grooms Matial Status Single
Brides Marital Status Single
Indexing Project (Batch Number)Moo709-9
System Origen England -Easy
Source Film Number 1656506
Reference Number IT 4 ,P6,No 12

Then two year later the Death of there Son John Dunford
England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991 John Dunford
Name John Dunford
Gender Male
Burial Place Liverpool.Lancashire .England
Age 1
Birth Date 1838
Fathers Name Thomas
Mothers Name Sarah
Indexing(Batch Number B03604-8
System Origen England -Easy
Source Film Number 396382
Reference Number V/4/1
hoping this will help my dunford family tree,
slowing we are finding out a little more.thanks to you.

[Blue70]

There's someone researching this family on Rootschat:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.ph ... 205.0.html


Blue

[bobdunford]

onthe birth and baptism of john dunford born 1812.baptised in st marys .liverpool
william dunford born 1815 baptised in st marys .liverpool
thomas dunford born 1818 baptised in st marys liverpool
james dunford born 1823 baptised in st marys liverpool
helen dunford born 1824 baptised in st marys liverpool
in allthe births and baptism they give the father as john dunford
and themother as martha dunford.

just found this
death records of John Dunford
Age at Death 59 years
Died of fever
Abode Titchfield Street Liverpool
in the Parish of St Anthony
August 12 1837
Birth Date 1778
So if this is the Correct Person and his first Son John was Born in 1812
this would make Father John 34 Years Old when his first son was Born
So i Expect John would have been Married somewhere between 1809 and 1812.

[CaroleW]

As you haven't yet found the marriage between John Dunford and "Ann" how can you be certain that his fathers name was John? Is it based on his brothers marriage details

[CaroleW]

Although the family appear on the 1871 census - I can't see them in 1861

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBFZ-CQF

There are no Dunford birth registrations in Liverpool

[bobdunford]

just found this if it is any help.
England and Wales Free BMD Death index 1837-1915
name Ann Campbell
Est Birth Year 1819
Date of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar 1879
Age of Death 60
Registration District West Derby
Inferred County Lancashire
Volume 8b
Page 238
could this have been John Dunford born 1812 Married Wife

[Bertieone]

If she married a Dunford, she would have died a Dunford unless she divorced, remarried etc, or a mistake was made registering her death.