McDonald (Joshua)

[GeirGG]

I have now opened up new threads as suggested. If anyone knows anything about my Joshua McDonald #1 and his Hannah, that came from Dublin, it can be posted on this thread, or else please use the new threads.

All I know about them, is that they are present as "sponsors" in a wedding i Dublin in 1855. All their kids except the last one (Thomas) was born there, and then they move to Manchester and are there in the 1861 census RG9/2961 page 9 (I don't know have to find what is refered to as folio number, but there is also a number 10 here). Joshua dies in Liverpool in 1865, and leaves Hannah a widow. I don't know what happens to her.

Thank you very much!
Geir

[dickiesam]

The only Joshua [#2?] in 1861 bn abt 1849 with a Manchester connection is this one:
RG09 - Piece: 2961 - Folio: 10 - Page: 9
Address: 7 Irk Street, Manchester, Lancashire.

MCDONALD, Joshua - Head - Married - 53 - Clothes Dealer - Ireland.
MCDONALD, Hannah - Wife - 50 - Clothes Dealer - Ireland.
MCDONALD, Joshua - Son - 11 - Scholar - Ireland.
Plus 6 siblings.

His 1871 claim to be from Manchester may be a mistake. Not that unusual.

EDITED to reflect correction to transcription, William to Joshua and ages of parents.

[GeirGG]

You found them, except that the father is named Joshua, and they are 53 and 50.

Thanks
Geir

[dickiesam]

You found them, except that the father is named Joshua, and they are 53 and 50.
Thanks
Geir

Hi,
I had a closer look at the census summary page and see where the incorrect transcription on Findmypast came from. I have submitted a correction and amended my post.

[GeirGG]

Anyone that can find out what happened to Hannah?

Thanks
Geir

[moya]

There doesn't seem to be any record for Hannah McDonald on the 1871 census. Free BMD has 2 records for death, 1862 Manchester and 1863 Liverpool.

[GeirGG]

Hi Moya,

I know that Hannah is alive in 1865, since she is stated as such on her husbands deathcertificate.

Thanks
Geir

[dickiesam]

Hi Moya,

I know that Hannah is alive in 1865, since she is stated as such on her husbands death certificate.

Thanks
Geir

Hi,
Can you post the exact and precise wording on the death cert that indicates Hannah was still alive? There may be another interpretation that we could see.

[GeirGG]

It says:

1865 Dale street Liverpool
Fifth of april 1865 2 court (I think that is what it says) Midghall street
Joshua McDonald
56 years
Clothes dealer
Inphus? fever 12 days ago certified
X the mark of Hannah McDonald present at death Midghall street Liverpool

[dickiesam]

It says:

1865 Dale street Liverpool
Fifth of april 1865 2 court (I think that is what it says) Midghall street
Joshua McDonald
56 years
Clothes dealer
Inphus? fever 12 days ago certified
X the mark of Hannah McDonald present at death Midghall street Liverpool

Thanks for the info. There's a death in 1871 before the census date. The age given by the informant may be a guess as was often the case.
Death: MACDONALD, Hannah
Registration district: West Derby, Lancashire
Year of registration: 1871; Mar qtr.
Age at death: 45
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 519.
I wonder about the age because there isn't a 35 year old Hannnah [+/- 5 years] in Liverpool in 1861.

Not sure about the cause of death. Would have to see the actual word. Could you scan, crop, and post the image here? You would need to use Photobucket, a free image hosting website, to do this because images cannot be posted direct to the forum.

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[Bertieone]

Hi DS,

Hannah was born 1810/11, would be a bad guess in 1871 to have her 45, flattering to most ladies though.

[GeirGG]

Ok, here we go

[simone]

typhus !

[dickiesam]

Snap Simone! Definitely Typhus, but not Typhus Fever!

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhus
Typhus is any of several similar diseases caused by Rickettsia bacteria. The name comes from the Greek typhos, meaning smoky or hazy, describing the state of mind of those affected with typhus. The causative organism Rickettsia is an obligate parasite bacteria that cannot survive for long outside living cells.

Typhus should not be confused with typhoid fever. While "typhoid" means "typhus-like", the diseases are distinct and are caused by different species of bacteria.

During Napoleon's retreat from Moscow in 1812, more French soldiers died of typhus than were killed by the Russians. And not many people know that!

[GeirGG]

Sorry, I am a bit confused. Is it Typhus or Typhoid fever when it says Typhus fever?

[Bertieone]

Typhus Fever,
that's on the death cert, that's what he died from.

[GeirGG]

So that is what is refered to as Typhus then?

[Bertieone]

This may help

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/ ... hiosis.htm

[GeirGG]

Thanks.