Marriage? Williams to Davey? Case closed, they didn't!

[dickiesam]

Can SKP turn up the marriage register entry for this couple, scan and post it here?

WILLIAMS, Benjamin Herbert married DAVEY, Florence Pauline
Registration district: West Derby, Lancashire
Year of registration: 1900; Dec qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 509

[Bertieone]

Hi DS,

Only the marriage index on Ancestry.

[dickiesam]

Hi DS,

Only the marriage index on Ancestry.

Thanks for looking Bert. That's one door closed, I'll look for another.... Maybe have to go for the cert itself.

[Hilary]

If you pm me your email address I'll send it you

7 June 1900 St Cyprian Edge Hill
Edward Huson Williams 41 widower of 81 Needham street a compositor father Francis Williams book binder
Alice Davey spinster 34 81 Needham St father Peter Davey deceased foreman painter

witnesses
Charles Grace
Annie Davey - I think it's Davey

[Bertieone]

Have I got the wrong end of the stick, and should I put the top back on this bottle

[dickiesam]

Thank you for the offer Hilary but is that the same marriage? Mine is in the Dec qtr of 1900 twixt Benjamin Herbert Williams and Florence Pauline Davey.

[Gray]

There's this one DS

Groom is NOT Benjamin Herbert Williams BUT.. thought is strange bride has same name?

St Margaret Anfield 15th Oct 1900

Charles Falkner Whitby Cunningham aged 30 steward 196 Whitefield rd (steward)
FLORENCE PAULINE DAVEY 19 101 woodville terrace

Father of Charles: Henry Cunningham prop of labour club
Father of Florence: William Davey colour sgt. of the Buffs
One of the father's is listed as late, cannot tell which,

witnesses: William Davey & hannah Leggate?

Gray

Edit: thought I would add.. this is looking at the ledger Anc

[Hilary]

The brain is totally failing me!! I'll blame it on the loss of a chunk of tooth just as I started a Getting Started with your Family History session at the local library. It's the imminent dentist visit in Monday!!!!!

I looked at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk and got the only Davey/ Williams marriage in 1900 which led me to the one I posted

However I think the problem is that Williams didn't marry Davey at all
This from ww.freembd.org
Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Cunningham Charles Falkner W W. Derby 8b 509
Davey Florence Pauline W. Derby 8b 509
Flanagan Mary Ann W. Derby 8b 509
Williams Benjamin Herbert W. Derby 8b 509

And from wwwlancashirebmd.org.uk

DAVEY

Florence P

CUNNINGHAM

Charles F

Walton, St. Margaret

Liverpool

Which is the one Gray has found and

WILLIAMS

Benjamin H

FLANAGAN

Mary A

1900

Walton, St. Margaret

Liverpool

Lancashire

15 November 1900 St Margaret Anfield
Benjamin Herbert Williams 21 clerkof 17 Whitford Street father Edward Williams Clerk
Mary Ann Flanagan 24 of same address father William Flanagan wireworker

[dickiesam]

It is fast becoming a case of ever-increasing circles.....
Where's me glasses, eraser, drawing board and me tablets?

My post was based on this:
Marriages Dec 1900 - W. Derby - 8b - 509:
Cunningham, Charles Falkner W;
Davey, Florence Pauline;
Flanagan, Mary Ann;
Williams, Benjamin Herbert

Plus, a Benjamin and Florence Williams who had been married 11 years in 1911!

[Hilary]

I think I need some coffee!!!

[Gray]

DS, To add to your headache
This is the actual name of the chap who married Florence Pauline Davey.. to make matters worse, have done a search re 1911 census with a cross ref of the four names.. not a sausage as yet
Will do a recce tomorrow


name: Charles Falkener Whitley Cunningham
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 31 Aug 1870
baptism/christening place: Lahore, Bengal, India
birth date: 11 Aug 1870
father's name: Henry Cunningham
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: C75022-1
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 499039
reference number: 499-039

Gray

[Daisycakes]

Hi DS...Is this them on 1901 census living at 68 Ivy Leigh

Charles Cunningham 30 head Ships Steward born India
Florence 19 born Ireland
I did just wonder about the Irish connection that is if there is one

Now found the ones you have DS in 1911 Benjamin and Florence Williams married for 11 years with 7 children all born liverpool Whooo Whooo but which one is yours
I'll but out now
Ann

[dickiesam]

Hi DS...Is this them on 1901 census living at 68 Ivy Leigh

Charles Cunningham 30 head Ships Steward born India
Florence 19 born Ireland
I did just wonder about the Irish connection that is if there is one

Now found the ones you have DS in 1911 Benjamin and Florence Williams married for 11 years with 7 children all born liverpool Whooo Whooo but which one is yours
I'll but out now
Ann

Hmm! Oh well! And me thinking I had found the right Benjamin and the right wife...
There's only one Benjamin Herbert W whose birth is registered in Lancs between 1860 and 1880:
WILLIAMS, Benjamin Herbert
Registration district: Liverpool
Year of registration: 1880; Sep qtr
Volume no: 8B; Page no: 55

So he must have married Mary Ann Flanagan and they are living at 4 Askew Street, Walton, Liverpool with 5 children in 1910+1. And thank you to Hilary for the details of their marriage. It confirmed it was the right BHW. A little progress up the slippery slope...

Well at least that is sorted. Case closed! Apologies for the wild goose chase folks!