Simeon family

Post by **simannegeo** » 03 Sep 2011 22:15

Hi I have been researching my family name Simeon and have found what I think is three families of Simeons that were/are in Liverpool and Bolton. My problem is trying to sort the families that seem to have been born around about the same time and have the same first names. I know that great grandfather x 3 was John Simeon 1781-1850 a Liverpool customs officer. He married Jane Bell 1790-1870. I am looking for a link to John & Jean. If I could get his parents and/or brothers & Sisters I may be able to link the families. Any help I would be grateful for.
My thanks and regards
George

Post by **LindaS** » 03 Sep 2011 22:29

Hi George
Have you seen these on LANOPC

Baptisms: 15 May 1812 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Grace Simeon - Daughter of John Simeon & His Wife Jane (formerly Bell)
Born: 29 Apr 1812
Abode: Shaws Brow
Occupation: Bookkeeper
Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 46, Entry 234
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptisms: 15 May 1812 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Alexander Simeon - Son of John Simeon & His Wife Jane (formerly Bell)
Born: 10 May 1810
Abode: Shaws Brow
Occupation: Bookkeeper
Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 46, Entry 232
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptisms: 15 May 1812 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Peter Simeon - Son of John Simeon & His Wife Jane (formerly Bell)
Born: 29 Apr 1812
Abode: Shaws Brow
Occupation: Bookkeeper
Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 46, Entry 233
Source: LDS Film 93833

and there is this one that matches Johns occupation but its earlier than the others

Baptisms: 6 Jan 1804 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ann Simeon - Daughter of John Simeon & Jane, His Wife
Born: 8 Dec
Abode: Dock Side
Occupation: Officer in the Customs
Register: Baptisms 1804, Page 207, Entry 31
Source: LFS Film 93833

Post by **Hilary** » 04 Sep 2011 09:11

John Simeon an officer in Customs married Jane Bell on 3 Jan 1803 at St peter Liverpool both of the parish.

In 1810 a John Simeon was listed in the Criminal Registers it's very faint but I think it says 5 mths and the crime was larceny. It might be worth looking in the newspapers to see if this is your John. This could account for the change of job as shown in the baptisms Linda found.

What is given as John's occupation on his death certificate and on any children's marriage certificates who married from 1837 onwards.

Where are the family in 1841?

Post by **simannegeo** » 04 Sep 2011 22:12

Hi Linda
Many thanks for your interest. Yes I had seen your listings. Ann was also John & Mary's daughter.
My thanks and regards
George

Post by **simannegeo** » 04 Sep 2011 22:29

Hi Hilary
My thanks. I have the marriage of John and Mary and details of their children but that is where it ends. I am unable to find where they were in 1841 with no census record. I did find that John was later recorded as being A custom office bookkeeper. This was in 1832. Thanks for the newspaper tip I will check that out.
My thanks & regards
George

Post by **dickiesam** » 04 Sep 2011 23:17

Hi,
You have John Simeon's wife Jane Bell as 1803-1870, but there are twins Grace and Peter born in 1812 and even earlier, Ann Dec 1803. And haven't yet found her death in 1870. Have you posted the dates for their daughter Jane in error?

I think I have found Peter in 1841. You probably have this?
SIMEON, Peter - 30 - Labourer - Lancashire.
SIMEON, Ellen - 31 - Lancashire.
SIMEON, Mary - 8 - Lancashire.
SIMEON, Peter - 4 - Lancashire.
SIMEON, George - 2 - Lancashire.
GILL, Henry - 18 - Lancashire.
Address: Eccles Street, Liverpool.
RG number: HO107 - Piece:564 - Book/Folio:19/22 - Page:36

DS

Post by **MaryA** » 05 Sep 2011 09:43

dickiesam wrote:Hi,
there are twins Grace and Peter born in 1812

John Alexander was also baptised on the same date as Grace and Peter - I would suspect that the baptisms may have been a "job lot" sometimes they were saved up to save on costs. Lucky the date of birth was given.

Post by **simannegeo** » 06 Sep 2011 21:52

Hi
thanks for you interest and pointing out my error.Jane Bell was born in 1790 and died 1870.She married John Simeon on Jan.3rd 1803. Their twins Grace & Peter were born Apr.29th 1812 with Grace passing away shortly after birth.
Yes I have the 1841 census info.
What i really need is John's parents and brothers & sisters. I have hit a wall there.
My thanks and regards
George

Post by **simannegeo** » 06 Sep 2011 22:02

MaryA wrote:
dickiesam wrote:Hi,
there are twins Grace and Peter born in 1812
John Alexander was also baptised on the same date as Grace and Peter - I would suspect that the baptisms may have been a "job lot" sometimes they were saved up to save on costs. Lucky the date of birth was given.

Hi Mary
You are right they were baptised on the same date. I have found several "job lots" during my family research.
thanks for your interest
George