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PostPosted: 16:32:37 Mon 03/Feb/2014 
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Hi,
Thanks for the update. Mary Grayley probably died in the workhouse Infirmary. In the 'place of death' column [1] does it say 144a Brownlow Hill? If yes, that is the 'pseudo address' for the Liverpool Workhouse Infirmary.

After 1904, registrars were instructed not to record a place of birth that indicated a workhouse in case this proved detrimental to the child in later life. They were to use a 'pseudo-address' such as the actual street address without naming the 'institution'. It appears most registrars applied the same instruction to death certs.

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PostPosted: 17:13:59 Mon 03/Feb/2014 
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Hi,

Here is the link for Anc,

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7814/ ... _3421-0813

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Rice Lane 1901
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7814/ ... _3457-0743

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PostPosted: 17:49:14 Mon 03/Feb/2014 
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Many thanks for the links - very helpful.
For Mary's place of death it simply says "workhouse" but doesn't say which one. Was Walton Workhouse the only one in the Walton registration district?
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PostPosted: 18:27:00 Mon 03/Feb/2014 
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I have always understood it to be Walton workhouse, Rice Lane, district of West Derby, Brownlow Hill was Liverpool, Mill Rd was an infirmary by the time Mary died, so I'm not sure if they would have entered Workhouse had she died there. Not had much need to research workhouses over in Liverpool, so I could be wrong.

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It might be worthwhile checking the registers for the Liverpool Workhouse which will be at the Record Office, there are not many available for Walton.

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My mother's brother's death (oops Birth) certificate gives his place of birth as "107 Rice Lane" which was, I believe, Walton Workhouse, but eventually became Walton Hospital - this was as fairly recently as 1944.

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PostPosted: 21:51:50 Mon 03/Feb/2014 
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At that date it would have been the infirmary/hospital. There would be some of us around who around that date would also have been born there.

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About 107 Rice Lane...
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestDerby/

And from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton,_Liverpool
Walton was also once the location of Walton Hospital, on Rice Lane. Several famous Scousers, including Sir Paul McCartney of Beatles fame, were born at the hospital. The hospital was also a regional centre for neurology and neurosurgery. However, as demand for services continued to increase, the capacity for patient's at the relatively small Walton Hospital site decreased and in 1998, all services were later transferred to the newly built The Walton Centre, located on the same site as Aintree University Hospital in Fazakerley.

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Many thanks for all the replies.
I went to Liverpool Records Office today but, as suspected, there are no records for Walton Workhouse from 1909 so I couldn't find a record for Mary's death. I did look at the Chaplains book but she wasn't mentioned.
Could I just check one thing. As Marys death is recorded as being "workhouse" and the district is Walton does it have to be Walton workhouse or could it be any other?
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I'm not 100% confident on answering that but I would have thought it should be Walton. Perhaps send Katie a message after the weekend when she returns from WhoDoYouThinkYouAre as she may know more.

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There's only two places it could be really with the death registration district being West Derby. There's Rice Lane and Belmont Road. Rice Lane was known as the "Workhouse" whereas Belmont Road was a "Test House" Workhouse. More likely she died at Rice Lane. There's more information here:-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestDerby/


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If you look at the Ford Burial register, a few pages either side of Mary, places of residence are recorded as Liverpool Workhouse, Belmont Workhouse and Workhouse, there's no mention of Walton or Rice Lane, so as Blue says, just known as Workhouse.

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