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PostPosted: 12:22:13 Thu 06/Jul/2017 
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Anyone know about old war memorials from churches?
In January I told Katie (of this group) that I would try to find out what had happened to the WWI memorial that used to be in St John's C of E Church in Waterloo, but all my enquiries with Liverpool Archdiocese and Liverpool Cathedral have run down. Nobody seems to know what happened to it.
Today the Cathedral Archivist suggested that Liverpool Record Office might know (or indeed, might have it - she said they had a collection of large objects.) This seems pretty unlikely to me. Anyone know if that angle is worth pursuing? If it was that easy, surely Katie would know about it already!
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Some extra information about the memorial, and who I have asked.
Katie has a transcription of the names, so the information isn't lost.
St John's Church in Waterloo was closed and de-consecrated several years ago and is now being redeveloped for residential use.
The memorial definitely isn't still inside the old church building because I managed to get inside one day earlier in the year when some kids had broken open the side door. There is a scar on the wall of the transept where the memorial used to be. (Location in the transept confirmed by a parishioner.)
The current vicar of Christ Church / St. John's says he has a feeling that the memorial was moved into storage by the Diocese before the building was put up for sale.
I have had some conversations with Chris Leggett at the Diocesan Advisory Committee (which deals with buildings) who said he thought it might be in the Cathedral crypt and would ask the Vergers (but he never got back to me, despite a couple of reminders).
The Vergers sounded mystified and suggested the Cathedral Archivist.
And that takes us back to the top of the post!

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PostPosted: 18:03:38 Thu 06/Jul/2017 
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Sounds like you are going round and round in circles.

I would think it worth making a plea to say Roger Hull via the archives to see if he can make enquiries into any other departments in the Record Office, although as you say I'm not sure how likely this is but you can send him an email via the contact details on here, https://liverpool.gov.uk/libraries/arch ... y-history/.

Perhaps one of the museums? Karen O'Rourke might be contactable at the World Museum (Waterfront) and could perhaps suggest a likely person to make enquiries with the museums.

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PostPosted: 22:59:39 Thu 06/Jul/2017 
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This memorial is still listed by the National Inventory of War Memorials, now administered by the Imperial War Museum. I don't think they will be able to help, as they relay on information given to them.

Suggestion: find out from the diocesan HQ at St James's House (by the Cathedral) the name of the Area Dean and the Archdeacon responsible for the Waterloo area, then conact them. The a/d is the senior of the two. They should be aware of the circumstances.

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PostPosted: 23:07:57 Thu 06/Jul/2017 
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Thank you both for the ideas. I will give them a try and let you all know.

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PostPosted: 19:43:59 Fri 07/Jul/2017 
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Paul Keogh laughed when I told him about War Memorials being stored at Liverpool Records. I will try and track this information down.

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PostPosted: 22:23:00 Sat 08/Jul/2017 
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In posting on Thursday I did not notice that area dean and archdeacon could be shortened to a/d . I meant that the archdeacon is the senior!
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PostPosted: 11:58:07 Tue 11/Jul/2017 
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I spoke to the Archdeacon's PA this morning, who will get back to me.

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PostPosted: 22:08:15 Sat 15/Jul/2017 
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The Archdeacon's PA did get back to me, and she asked if I had spoken to Chris Legget at the DAC because she'd spoken to him and he had a feeling he'd heard the question before. [Repressed gnashing of teeth at my end of the phone!] I said that was me, that he hadn't come back to me after several reminders, and I told her the other places I had tried. She took it all in. I asked why there wasn't a proper record and a proper system.
She promised to look into it further and ring me again.
I think this one sounds competent, so fingers crossed.
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PostPosted: 10:08:42 Thu 20/Jul/2017 
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Good luck Barbara. It is so sad when historical items, especially those of remembrance, go missing. No excuse really.


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